(May 7, 2017 at 4:51 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:(April 30, 2017 at 4:39 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: I think he views you as someone who is dependent on others to protect you ie government, as opposed to someone who can protect themselves and be an individualist. I don't own a gun, but always thought it was strange how throughout human history governments want to prevent citizens from owning certain weapons, and then we have some citizens that want to give up their rights. It really comes down to being dependent and domesticated vs independent and free.
Granted I realize you own guns, and don't know what you mean by sensible in relationship to your argument with him was.
Governments want to stop people from owning certain weapons because occasionally there are times when people just shoot up other people for no good reason. In the UK automatic weapons were effectively banned after the Hungerford massacre, our government learned that allowing people to have this sort of fire power was a bad thing. We have had no other crimes of this sort since. The US for some reason refuses to learn and as a result has the equivalent of a Hungerford massacre every day.
When lots of people die from not wearing seat belts the law is changed to make you wear seat belts its the same thing.
(May 5, 2017 at 9:34 pm)Lek Wrote: What makes non-white middle American men and women gun owners feel secure?
From what I can tell its when they cant see a police man.
Not because they have done anything wrong, but because in America the police seem to a branch of the KKK.
Well it's kind of difficult to know, when statistics are sporadic and volunteer only.
I have great respect for FBI (Republican no less!) Chief James Comey. For taking stances that may be unpopular (like getting a fifsa warrant on Trump last year), but you can tell by his actions that he's a true patriot. And yes, I'm aware of his hand in the weeks prior to the election and what democrats and Republicans think about him. If you knew for a fact that Trump was going to win.. And you were forced into a corner by fellow FBI agents, some of them compromised and trying to get dirt on you or get you fired, then following protocol seems prudent, doesn't it?
Sorry for the tangent, Comey has been the subject of many discussing this past week and there are a lot of uninformed people out there who would think I'm a Republican (egads!) Or so out of touch I was unaware of the Comey letter.
Quote:Public attention intensified when FBI Director James B. Comey spoke forcefully about racial bias in policing, spotlighting the challenges that Goff has been trying to tackle for the past decade. In a speech at Georgetown University, Comey recalled how, in the days after riots in Ferguson, he asked for reliable data about police shootings. A chief told Comey he “didn’t know whether the Ferguson police shot one person a week, one a year or one a century and that in the absence of good data, ‘All we get are ideological thunderbolts, when what we need are ideological agnostics who use information to try to solve problems.’”
Now, armed with funding from private organizations, the U.S. Department of Justice and a $1 million grant from the National Science Foundation, Goff and his team at the Center for Policing Equity have launched the Justice Database to measure disparities in policing. Forty police departments and agencies have signed on to participate in the project, and the center is now preparing to begin analyzing data, which will cover more than 25% of the U.S. population. Many police chiefs are hungry for this data, Goff said. “We are rushing to meet the needs of law enforcement.”
http://blueprint.ucla.edu/feature/police...r-answers/
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.