RE: Debunking Christianity? It's actually quite as simple as asking "why?"
July 17, 2011 at 2:28 pm
(July 17, 2011 at 1:14 pm)Boris Spacek Wrote: What if I hadn't given God these qualities? What if these were all scripturally based or teaching of church patricians? I know scripture doesn't prove anything; it's just a guide to God (from my point of view), and to anyone else it's the first source Christian philosophy and doctrine. I guess, my question is, if I call something the source of Goodness, wouldn't the next step to be to establish whether Goodness could have a source? You disagree with my method of naming, but I can't: if indeed the FSM is the source of all light, then, if a source of light exists, the FSM must as well.
My point was that you can't ascribe an attribute to god before you prove that he exists. Then when you end up using said attribute as proof of his existence, you are confirming god's existence with attributes of his existence. You're putting the cart before the horse, so to speak, with your argument.
Boris Spacek Wrote:All I've done is give a name to a collection of attributes: if each of these attributes exists, then shouldn't God as well?
If you could prove he was the source of these attributes yes, but again, proving he had these attributes would require to first prove he exists.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
