RE: Can prayer change God's perfect plan?
May 10, 2017 at 12:15 pm
(This post was last modified: May 10, 2017 at 12:26 pm by Brian37.)
(May 10, 2017 at 11:43 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(May 10, 2017 at 11:37 am)MellisaClarke Wrote: I don't want to think of it like that.
What if police officers ignored murderous criminals, and allowed things to proceed as they were?
I believe God's plan is far deeper than the scenario you lay out.
You can't compare God to police officers, because police officers have limited abilities. On the other hand, God stopping us every time one of us tried to do something wrong, would mean we'd be like puppets and not people.
But yes, of course God's plan goes much deeper than what any of us can know or say. I can only offer my very limited understanding.
Yes I agree human police do have limits, but if you are an all powerful God whom claims you love your followers and you want to protect them, then it would seem to me, being that all powerful protector, you would have no excuse not to do that.
Is he a protector, or are we simply mere toys or props? Because it does not seem he is good at backing his mouth up.
(May 10, 2017 at 12:15 pm)Brian37 Wrote:(May 10, 2017 at 11:43 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: You can't compare God to police officers, because police officers have limited abilities. On the other hand, God stopping us every time one of us tried to do something wrong, would mean we'd be like puppets and not people.
But yes, of course God's plan goes much deeper than what any of us can know or say. I can only offer my very limited understanding.
Yes I agree human police do have limits, but if you are an all powerful God whom claims you love your followers and you want to protect them, then it would seem to me, being that all powerful protector, you would have no excuse not to do that.
Is he a protector, or are we simply mere toys or props? Because it does not seem he is good at backing his mouth up.
You could make a better case for adults doing what they want, but kids? Tell me what choice a 4 year old would have getting cancer? What could they have done to deserve or even for God to allow that? What would Adam Walsh, the son of America's Most Wanted fame, what could Adam have done at his age to deserve to be raped and decapitated by a child molester or for God to sit with folded arms and do nothing while Adam was slaughtered?
We don't know what "God's plan is"?
Tell me, why is it finite humans outside of religion don't think like that? Tell me would you not get your kid medical care if they got cancer? If you knew a child molester was going to harm your kid you'd simply watch?
