RE: Can prayer change God's perfect plan?
May 10, 2017 at 1:45 pm
(This post was last modified: May 10, 2017 at 1:47 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
(May 10, 2017 at 1:41 pm)Valyza1 Wrote: Considering the idea of acting according to God's Will to be "one thing" is like considering living your life to be "one thing". You can categorize a whole bunch of things under a single title and call it "one thing", that doesn't mean it isn't also many things. How would YOU define freedom?
You said God knows the future and our actions and choices are predetermined. That means we're free to do what God predicts and ONLY what god predicts. That's one thing.
Quote:The interesting thing is I'm not even trying to justify theism. I'm just speaking hypothetically about the apparent conflict between Free Will and Determinism and explaining my thoughts about how they can co-exist. I'm not interested in doing a "logic-battle" with anyone.
The only version of free will that is NOT in conflict with determinism is by definition: Compatabilism.
Which is a type of free will that no one doubts anyway. It's not a philosophical problem. It's a philosophical way of dodging a problem rather than dealing with it.
And it's a definition of free will that's so lax that it means we're free even though we can't do otherwise.
You can call that free however much you like... but you're basically just labelling normal willpower as "free will" rather than actually addressing the question.
Compatabilism is a godamn side-step.
