RE: Can prayer change God's perfect plan?
May 10, 2017 at 4:21 pm
(This post was last modified: May 10, 2017 at 4:26 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
(May 10, 2017 at 2:28 pm)Valyza1 Wrote: Suppose you had the ability to look back and watch your entire past in as much detail as you want, knowing you can't change it. Would that make all the multiple choices you made in the past any less free?
No. It wouldn't make a difference whether I looked back into the past or not. Either way I couldn't have done otherwise. Same with the future and the present.
Quote: That's all omnipotence means.
That absolutely is not what omnipotence means.
Quote: To know all things and events.
No, that's what omniscience means.
And we're talking about the future, not the past.
Fuck I just realized you're too dumb to argue with lol.
Dude... if the future is determined then that means we can't do otherwise in an incompatabilist sense.
@ Aroura
If you ever wanna talk about anxiety issues regarding lack of free will I can totally relate and I'm here if you ever wanna discuss it.
(May 10, 2017 at 3:56 pm)Aroura Wrote: If anyone out there really are determinists, then blaming people (in a negative emotional way) for not understanding all of this is futile. We know they are just a product of their DNA and environment, and cannot be any other way.
Gosh sister.. you're like the only non-celebrity (i.e. Sam Harris and Galen Strawson. Lol.) besides myself that I know who feels that way. I just wanna hug ya for that! I feel less alone now.
