Can prayer change God's perfect plan?

[Brian37]

Do you understand what it means to "be outside of the dimension of time"?  Or if that makes any real sense or if it's possible?  Or is this all just what you're (and Catholic doctrine) is asserting?  It's one thing to assert something and another to prove or demonstrate it.  

I'd like to see why you think it's possible to be outside of the dimension of time let alone that there is an entity already there.

I think it's impossible for any of us to fully comprehend what it means to be outside of time, because we can't possibly fathom time not existing/not being a factor. I think I've explained as much of it as I understand, though. I will say that I think time exists only so long as matter exists. God is spirit and is therefore not bound by time.  

I agree that it's one thing to assert something and another thing to prove it. It is not possible to prove that anything can exist outside of time, that's just my belief regarding God. I said a few pages back that I'm not trying to prove anything, just explaining my beliefs and giving my opinions. Why I believe what I do is a whole other story, and I've touched on it (as much as one reasonably can via forum posts) a handful of times on other threads.

Why are you desperate to feel the need to fill in that gap when you admit that you cannot prove it?

Do you explain the existence of lightening and thunder with Thor? How come you don't feel the need to believe that? Do you explain hurricanes with Poseidon? How come you don't feel the need to believe that? 

Maybe YOU need to seriously consider that it is something you were sold and something you merely desire to be true. 

Written religion was around long before Christianity, and human beings were around long before even written religion. Our planet is 4 billion years old and other species of life existed and thrived long before even apes existed. Our universe is currently estimated as having nearly 200 billion galaxies, and the universe is 13.8 billion years old. Written religion has only been around about 10,000 years of that 13.8 billion years. Our planet has had 5 mass extinction events as to which 99% of life has gone extinct and what you see left is the 1% remaining  in our planet's 4 billion year history.

I cannot take those facts that I know and fall back into the fantasy that all this was made for us. That would seem to me a long winded way to get to humans.