RE: Can prayer change God's perfect plan?
May 10, 2017 at 6:19 pm
(This post was last modified: May 10, 2017 at 6:19 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
(May 10, 2017 at 2:28 pm)Valyza1 Wrote: So basically, what you are calling Free Will is the complete absence of Determinism, yes? If that's the case, then I agree with you. Free Will, by that definition, does not exist, because determinism does exist.
No. I'm not saying that free will is the absence of determinism. I'm saying that the kind of free will that is incompatible with determinism is logically impossible and logically incoherent.
And I'm saying that the kind of free will that is compatible with determinism is so trivially true that it's not worthy to even be a part of the free will discussion. Compatabilism is an embarassment.
A compatabilist joining the free will debate is like a dude running up to a bunch of inventors and scientists trying to create a time machine and saying "Hey guys! I've solved it! Time is space-time so we already travel through time when we travel through space.... you're time travelling now just by walking up to me to punch me in the face for side-stepping the problem! Yay!.... wait..."
(May 10, 2017 at 6:14 pm)Valyza1 Wrote: What is "incompatiblist Free Will "?
The opposite of compatabilist free will.