Can someone tell me where in the 2nd amendment it says you can carry machine guns?

[Brian37]

I agree, Brian, you and I both have a right to discuss our viewpoints....for now.  Those same powerful people who seek to remove our 2nd amendment rights have been hard at work for many years attempting to do away with our right to speak freely.  If you haven't noticed that, then maybe you aren't noticing much that those who would see a Communist America have been doing bit by bit, nudge by nudge...progressive tactics well learned over a century.

I find it interesting, GS, that you went automatically from gun rights to prayer.  Do you think those who support our 2nd amendment must be theists in reality?  I don't pray because I am an atheist, but damn right that sounds like an amazing firearm!  

I find it odd that a gun enthusiast like yourself links other atheists who own guns with theists.  Why do you own guns?  Why do you have what seems to be some superior attitude about your gun ownership?  Why do you believe that only you can own guns and speak about guns and the 2nd in a rational manner?  Will your guns not fire bullets into living flesh with the goal of killing?

Another poster just said it was past time that all guns be removed from those of us, who own them.  Did they mean from you, as well?  Do you believe that will ensure a safer world?  No...you aren't that naive, are you?

If it is crime that you mean to scour from the nation, then talk about those tactics that actually work.  Our courts should prosecute petty crimes committed with firearms to the fullest extent possible.  Assault with a gun handled the same.  Then we could begin on crimes committed with knives and when the criminals start using acid, the courts could prosecute them again to the fullest extent possible.  Soon...only law-abiding citizens will own guns and knives and acid and the criminal element of society will be totally outlawed and banned.  Or something like that...kind of, maybe, possibly...

Yes...let us get all the guns out of the hands of criminals first.

DAMN you keep missing my point.

PLEASE STOP painting false doomsday slippery slopes in your head that DONT EXIST.

NOBODY I consider sane, and certainly not the majority of even liberal gun owners, LIBERALS OWN GUNS TOO, the majority is NOT out to end the 2nd amendment. PLEASE STOP THINKING THAT. Gawdzilla owns guns too, but he isn't flipping out over my arguments.

"Get them out of the hands of the criminals"

This is what you keep failing to see.

You can have no record at time of buy and then go on to fuck up. THAT is actually where most firearm injuries/deaths happen. The crap about stranger vs stranger is a MYTH. The most likely injuries and deaths happen with someone the user is familiar with.

The suicides, the kids accidentally shooting themselves, the suicides and domestic homicides as a majority start with someone who either flew under the radar and or was legal at time of buy with no record. Stranger vs stranger is your least likely firearm interaction.

Now please, feel free to find anywhere in this post I said, "End the 2nd Amendment and ban every single firearm". YOU WONT FIND THOSE WORDS IN THIS POST, nor ever in my history on the web debating this issue for that matter.

"Good intent" isn't enough. "Legal at time of buy" isn't enough. That is all I said. PLEASE STOP assuming, buying into fear and don't put thoughts into my head that are not there.

And even outside the issue with guns, crime of any kind. For the past 40 years our attitude has been about "crime prevention" as wait until something bad happens, then warehouse. That isn't prevention, that is allowing conditions to fester and grow.

Prevention isn't about banning anything, anymore than adding seat belts or air bags prevents you from driving.