(May 2, 2009 at 7:38 pm)Sai Wrote:(May 2, 2009 at 6:16 pm)Tiberius Wrote: And fr0d0's reply brings me onto another point. How do we really know what Jesus said and what people say he said. All the Biblical accounts are self contradictory and not a single non-biblical document exists that tells us what he said.
Like I said, if you read it like a historical document it will be messy. You are completely correct that it's flawed in that sense, it's a thousands of years old book written by many people after all. If I were to rewrite the bible, it would probably somewhat resemble the Jefferson Bible... XD
Because really, you must reconstruct it yourself before you can appreciate its value. Kinda like the rusty old sword that turns into a shining blade once polished, or sumthin'... (and this is not such a bad metaphor because you can cut yourself on the sides of the pages XD !!)
Yet, if you let your consciousness rest and read it with your soul (gaaah!! will you stop using that terrible word already <- to myself XD) you can connect it into one perfect spiritual entity... no words, no pages. A spiritual map to the live that we should be living, a live of truth. But alas, it's just a map and it won't magically turn you into a better person or make you walk on water or what have you.
Now, I suppose that this sounds pretty crazy and meaningless to you, but unfortunately there are some serious limits to my writing skills, I'm sorry...
(May 2, 2009 at 7:15 pm)bozo Wrote: Since " God " probably doesn't exist and JC is the " son of god " , why should i/we bother engaging you?
Why, you don't! If it's a bother - please, by any means, use your time for something that you find more constructive. (Just don't hit me, 'kay? XD)
I don't see the point in debating with the likes of you. The starting point must be " god ", whether he/she/it actually exists and if he/she/it had a son etc etc etc ad nauseam.
A man is born to a virgin mother, lives, dies, comes alive again and then disappears into the clouds to become his Dad. How likely is that?