(May 9, 2017 at 1:03 am)Cecelia Wrote: God is supposed to be the bastion for morality, yet he goes around killing people pretty willy nilly in the bible. Not to mention how he demands blood sacrifices--which would be more than a little creepy if he were human. So why isn't it creepy just because he's some invisible wizard?
Obviously all of this only applies if he's actually real--but even if you convinced me of his existence, I don't think I'd support the guy. The whole thing reeks of "Might makes right", and that everyone would gladly follow Satan if he were more powerful than God (though they'd never admit it).
"God only kills the wicked!"
Really? Seems like a pretty poor excuse. All the children in the flood were going to be wicked? In which case he was killing them before they actually do anything. And you can say "Well, they'll go to heaven!" all you like, but unless you happen to be pro-abortion, that argument holds very little water.
And what about the 70,000 people he killed when David took a census? Those 70,000 people just happened to be wicked? We're supposed to just take his word on that?
Lot's wife was killed because she looked back.
All the first born children of egypt. Yeah, all of them. There weren't any other ways he could have freed the supposed slaves of Egypt? I mean the guy left no evidence behind of them ever being there, seems to me he just wanted to be a dick about it.
Killed a guy because he wouldn't hit a prophet that told him to hit him. (Apparently this wasn't one of his insane tests like with Abraham, but you can see why you might not want to hit a prophet especially when...)
The youths killed by bears because they teased a prophet.
Ezekiel's wife... just to make a point.
I really don't see how anyone can look at this guy and think he's obviously the good guy. Do you think Harry Potter is the tragic tale of the benevolent Lord Voldemort? Is the Hunger Games the story of how the evil Katniss Everdeen stops President Snow? Is Star Wars the story of the downfall of a loving benevolent Empire by a bunch of evil rogues?
God appears to be the villain of the story, but people give him a pass because 'Well he created everything!" which amounts to might makes right. And frighteningly you can look at it and start to see how the Nazis were able to do all the things they did. The justifications of God's actions are lacking. All most people can say is that you can't judge God by man's standards. To which I say: I wonder if the Nazi's thought the same thing about Hitler. Or who else's actions we'll justify because we are powerless to stop them.
Yahweh was first and foremost a war god. His role has not chanted since ancient times. Westerners use him to justify taking other people’s land. To serve in this capacity, he has been given a license to kill. By making themselves “god’s chosen people” they feel they have a right to the land and everyone else is just breathing the air they want to breathe.
To say that we cannot judge god by human standards negates the other idea that we need god for absolute moral standards. A god who reveals his will through charismatic individuals can offer no moral absolutes.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
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I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.