(May 13, 2017 at 6:00 pm)SteveII Wrote:(May 13, 2017 at 5:05 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: Since you insist that god is the creator and nobody asked to be created, he does owe us as much as a parent owes his child. A parent who chooses not to provide his child the necessities of life is put in jail for child neglect.You are ignoring the high value he obviously places on free will and the free choice we have to have a relationship with him. While it does mean death to many, it also means that millions or billions have, with their free will, chosen God. A close second is that love is only possible with free will.
It's not that god owes us death, but he chose to give us death when he with full omniscience set Adam up to din.
Your second paragraph denies the omnipotence of god. An omnipotent god doesn't need to calculate the end result because he creates the end result. There can be no reality outside his will. What you describe is damage control, not grace.
God has chosen to limit his omnipotence in favor of free will.
No, i think we're ignoring the rationalizations of a believer. He must have chosen free will over love, also. Or, at least what normal people call love.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing." - Samuel Porter Putnam
