RE: Can prayer change God's perfect plan?
May 15, 2017 at 2:50 pm
(This post was last modified: May 15, 2017 at 2:50 pm by Fake Messiah.)
(May 15, 2017 at 8:48 am)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Well, they claim that he is omnipresent which includes being present both inside AND outside time and space.So what you are saying is that god is an invalid because only part of him is in "our dimension"? He can only use his left hand which is in "our dimension" while the rest of him is in other?
But the part of him that exists inside is the only part that can interact in the actual world and the only part that has any actual existence or reality lol.
Needles to say for anyone having the least familiarity with religion, it goes without saying that such watered-down versions of faith are not held by most people, who accept instead a personal god who intervenes in the world. It's simple ignorance. Rather similar like some Christians here on forum claim that all Christians acknowledge evolution. They totally ignore even other Christians on this forum.
(May 15, 2017 at 8:48 am)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Saying God is also outside of time and space as well as inside it.... is rather like me saying that the side meal I'm having with my main course is nothing.... and someone replies "Oh so you mean you have no side meal with your main course?" and the response I give is "No, I do have a side meal it's just nothing." Lol.Yeah, perhaps but to me it is very like Carl Sagan claiming to have a dragon in his garage.
And also god of the gaps. Just moving god where we can't reach him yet. He used to be on high mountains, then sky, then another dimensions.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"