RE: Can prayer change God's perfect plan?
May 16, 2017 at 6:18 am
(This post was last modified: May 16, 2017 at 6:20 am by WinterHold.)
(May 15, 2017 at 8:48 am)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Well, they claim that he is omnipresent which includes being present both inside AND outside time and space.
But the part of him that exists inside is the only part that can interact in the actual world and the only part that has any actual existence or reality lol.
Saying God is also outside of time and space as well as inside it.... is rather like me saying that the side meal I'm having with my main course is nothing.... and someone replies "Oh so you mean you have no side meal with your main course?" and the response I give is "No, I do have a side meal it's just nothing." Lol.
If nothing can exist outside of time, then what is the singularity that gave birth to the big bang?
Since time is a quantity, things can happen before it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time
Quote:Time is the indefinite continued progress of existence and events that occur in apparently irreversible succession from the past through the present to the future.[1][2][3][/url]
Nothing is wrong scientifically, in saying that "something" began the existence of "events". They call it singularity; and the theory accepted by the mainstream is the big bang theory.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_singularity
Quote:According to modern [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity]general relativity, the initial state of the universe, at the beginning of the , was a singularity.
There is no time here. But it was proven that "something" can exist. Not material; not a body; not a Buddha; not a Ra, but a singularity. A point not affected by gravity; not affected by laws or rules. Ring a bell?
Nomads and Jesus told us so many times, before so long ago that such thing exists. Something free of laws; infinite; cannot be described.
Yes; stuff can exist outside of time?
Gravitational singularity?