(May 14, 2017 at 12:30 pm)Lek Wrote: As far as I can tell the bible doesn't say that nothing had died yet at that time. Eve told told the serpent that God told her she would die if she ate of the tree. Maybe he had no concept of good and evil, but Adam knew that God told him he would die if he ate of the fruit and he knew he should obey God. After he committed the act he didn't say "I didn't know I shouldn't do it", but rather "Eve made me do it". What you're saying is "I wouldn't punish my children like that, so God shouldn't either". You're judging God according to your standards.
Without knowledge of good and evil he could not know that obeying god is good and disobeying is evil. Eve repeated what god said about dying, but it's clear she had not concept of death. Why would she think something that would kill her is useful for food and would make her wise?
They wanted knowledge. Not until they ate the fruit and gained that knowledge did they understand that it was evil. Adam hid himself, not because he had eaten the fruit, but because he KNEW that he was naked. The church still sees knowlege as evil. But my dear, you have come to a website where we object. Knowledge is good and a parent who wants his children to stay ignorant is evil.
Maybe the tree was there because god didn't really want them to remain ignorant. I'm a writer. Sometimes my characters refuse to do what I tell them to do. They want to do what they want to do. But that's how I know I've created realistic characters.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
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I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.