Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: June 27, 2026, 5:23 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 2 Vote(s) - 5 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Is perception reality?
#29
RE: Is perception reality?
(May 1, 2009 at 7:32 am)Giff Wrote: Reality requires a conciousness, or perhaps perception is requiring that.
Saying reality requires a consciousness is ridiculous. Reality existed long before humans were around (of that we have proof) and long before any form of life was around (again, we have proof). Are people forgetting that reality is "the set of all things which are real". Reality doesn't simply cease to exist because no conscious mind is thinking about it.

There is a famous quote by Philip K. Dick which goes: "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."

I'd say that reality both requires a good level of perception and consciousness to understand, but in terms of existence, reality requires neither. In fact both consciousness and perception are in the set of reality (in that they are real), not the other way around.
Reply



Messages In This Thread
Is perception reality? - by WWLD - April 29, 2009 at 12:29 am
RE: Is perception reality? - by Tiberius - April 29, 2009 at 5:48 am
RE: Is perception reality? - by WWLD - April 29, 2009 at 4:30 pm
RE: Is perception reality? - by Edwardo Piet - April 29, 2009 at 7:32 am
RE: Is perception reality? - by Giff - April 29, 2009 at 11:33 am
RE: Is perception reality? - by chatpilot - April 29, 2009 at 12:30 pm
RE: Is perception reality? - by Giff - April 29, 2009 at 1:38 pm
RE: Is perception reality? - by Edwardo Piet - April 29, 2009 at 12:31 pm
RE: Is perception reality? - by chatpilot - April 29, 2009 at 5:31 pm
RE: Is perception reality? - by fr0d0 - April 29, 2009 at 6:30 pm
RE: Is perception reality? - by WWLD - April 29, 2009 at 10:17 pm
RE: Is perception reality? - by Edwardo Piet - April 29, 2009 at 6:50 pm
RE: Is perception reality? - by fr0d0 - April 30, 2009 at 3:38 am
RE: Is perception reality? - by chatpilot - April 30, 2009 at 11:40 am
RE: Is perception reality? - by g-mark - April 30, 2009 at 12:37 pm
RE: Is perception reality? - by Dotard - May 1, 2009 at 2:52 am
RE: Is perception reality? - by g-mark - May 1, 2009 at 3:23 am
RE: Is perception reality? - by Dotard - May 1, 2009 at 4:00 am
RE: Is perception reality? - by Sam - May 1, 2009 at 5:14 am
RE: Is perception reality? - by g-mark - May 1, 2009 at 7:11 am
RE: Is perception reality? - by Kyuuketsuki - May 1, 2009 at 7:19 am
RE: Is perception reality? - by Giff - May 1, 2009 at 7:32 am
RE: Is perception reality? - by Edwardo Piet - May 1, 2009 at 9:07 am
RE: Is perception reality? - by WWLD - May 2, 2009 at 1:07 am
RE: Is perception reality? - by Edwardo Piet - May 2, 2009 at 7:29 am
RE: Is perception reality? - by g-mark - May 2, 2009 at 9:03 am
RE: Is perception reality? - by infidel666 - May 2, 2009 at 9:35 pm
RE: Is perception reality? - by Edwardo Piet - May 2, 2009 at 9:40 pm
RE: Is perception reality? - by Tiberius - May 2, 2009 at 9:43 pm
RE: Is perception reality? - by Giff - May 3, 2009 at 4:18 am
RE: Is perception reality? - by g-mark - May 3, 2009 at 9:20 am
RE: Is perception reality? - by Tiberius - May 9, 2009 at 8:34 pm
RE: Is perception reality? - by Edwardo Piet - May 9, 2009 at 9:14 pm
RE: Is perception reality? - by Giff - May 13, 2009 at 4:41 am
RE: Is perception reality? - by fr0d0 - May 13, 2009 at 2:59 pm
RE: Is perception reality? - by Edwardo Piet - May 13, 2009 at 3:10 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  An atheists guide to reality StatCrux 143 72014 April 23, 2018 at 5:50 pm
Last Post: Edwardo Piet
  Announced disproof of Reality strengthens the atheism cosmology 11 4351 December 31, 2017 at 11:05 pm
Last Post: Losty
  The flame between two darknesses: A celebration of reality FebruaryOfReason 10 6172 March 23, 2016 at 5:53 pm
Last Post: FebruaryOfReason
  Life's meaning when you are an atheist - reality, struggle, etc. bussta33 11 6561 December 11, 2015 at 7:21 pm
Last Post: Edwardo Piet
  General perception of atheists? RationalAtheist 13 5005 October 28, 2015 at 11:51 pm
Last Post: Athene
  Your perception of theists Catholic_Lady 124 45110 July 9, 2015 at 4:38 pm
Last Post: Salacious B. Crumb
  The Wonder of Reality PhilosophicalZebra 54 18810 May 2, 2015 at 10:10 am
Last Post: robvalue
  I wish to feel superior to reality (atheism) Mozart Link 73 26474 August 5, 2014 at 7:58 am
Last Post: Thumpalumpacus
  EX Catholic recent Atheist....hard time coping with reality. CTR8008 13 8047 December 22, 2013 at 8:26 pm
Last Post: KichigaiNeko
  [SPLIT] Quantum Physics Disproves Reality Kyuuketsuki 3 3262 August 23, 2009 at 7:15 am
Last Post: Kyuuketsuki



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)