(May 16, 2017 at 10:01 am)SteveII Wrote:(May 16, 2017 at 9:26 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: What was the purpose of forbidding Adam from eating the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil if he already had that knowledge? Your definition of intentional is quite odd and based on what you need to be true rather than the word's actual meaning.
But the ability to disobey (which they obviously had) is not the same as being made aware of the good and bad within yourself (the loss of innocence). I used 'intentional' because it was not an accident--they actually discussed that God said not to eat it and chose to do it anyway.
I understand the difference you're making and think it is a fair one. It just leaves me with a big question. If the evil was already in Adam and Eve then that has to be the way god created them. Are you ready to say that god is the creator of evil? Are you then ready to justify god punishing them for manifesting what he created in them?
It's not about free will. I don't derive my child of free will by not giving him a button that will blow up the world and leaving him to choose.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.