(May 17, 2017 at 9:48 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:(May 17, 2017 at 9:02 am)Brian37 Wrote: UGGGGGG
Atlas, attacking science or trying to co opt science does not work. It does not work when Muslims do it, it does not work when Christians do it, it does not work when Jews or Buddhists or Hindus do it. BUT YOU ALL DO IT.
You are trying the same fallacious tactic as NEO and Steve11 have as Christians. When you cant quote the Koran/ or bible directly, you attack science in an attempt to debunk it, when you cant do that, then you try to co opt science to try to get it to point to your holy writing. It does not work when any religion tries to pull it.
Where did I attack science?
Actually; I accuse those who never count on science to conclude a view as being "ignorant" and perhaps even the cause behind lots of disasters.
I furthermore despise those who take science out of its context -i.e intentionally hiding context, take a word and forget the rest-.
Take it all or leave it all.
Saying that the universe is expanding, and that religious books like the Quran stress on the fact is not an act of taking science out of its context: simply the fact matches a verse and a context.
Saying that the universe contains bodies with hell-like features -i.e black holes- is not taking science out of its context.
Twisting a holy book to match a filthy thought I'm having, or twisting science to match a filthy scenario in my head is the true forgery and ultimate elimination of context. Sadly, missionaries and preachers from all religions seem to master the context-stripping tactic, and sadly, many fall for it.
Science is obvious. Stressing on a fact is not equal to throwing the fact into a blender along with personal demons and religious bullshit to produce a Shiite cocktail, or a Catholic juice, or a Sunni falafel, or an American fucking-dooda to fill the walls of personal psychological problems with, earning a tiny price by winning a tiny forum topic via spamming a foe into submission with ill logic and twisty ways.
Don't care. Again, you all do it.
There is not one single religion in the world that does not have apologists whom either try to debunk science or try to co opt science.
Scientific method is a tool, a neutral method, it is not a religion and is not there to favor any religion or to point to any holy book.
You are stuck in the same boat as any other follower of any other religion. You don't get to blame us for your own inability to see this.