(May 15, 2017 at 10:30 pm)bennyboy Wrote:Damn....that's a really honest thing to say here. Sorry if any take offence to my surprise.(May 15, 2017 at 7:51 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: It is objective in all cases if one removes self from moral equation, or rather reward/ detriment of self.
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That's right. And this is the essential question-- does the existence of mind add anything to moral decisions, or is mind intrinsic to certain kinds of physical systems or functions? Does our physiology (including that of the brain) DETERMINE our ideas and behaviors, or merely influence them?
I don't know the answer. I'm a little on the theist side of this-- I think that perhaps mind means the whole is greater than the sum of the parts, and so examining the function of the parts can't give a complete picture.
It wasn't long ago that most uhm....sceptics denied objective morality just because of supposed or presupposed implications.
It's good to see things change over time.
That was a good post.
(May 15, 2017 at 10:30 pm)bennyboy Wrote:(May 15, 2017 at 7:51 pm)popsthebuilder Wrote: It is objective in all cases if one removes self from moral equation, or rather reward/ detriment of self.
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That's right. And this is the essential question-- does the existence of mind add anything to moral decisions, or is mind intrinsic to certain kinds of physical systems or functions? Does our physiology (including that of the brain) DETERMINE our ideas and behaviors, or merely influence them?
I don't know the answer. I'm a little on the theist side of this-- I think that perhaps mind means the whole is greater than the sum of the parts, and so examining the function of the parts can't give a complete picture.
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