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morality is subjective and people don't have free will
RE: morality is subjective and people don't have free will
(May 17, 2017 at 11:40 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote:
(May 17, 2017 at 11:21 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Both say the same basic thing - an act that is immoral. Only difference is God/religion is in the picture.

As for original sin, is the acknowledgement that we're all bound to do something wrong at some point in our life really that bad? You just said you agreed with it. You just don't agree with calling it original sin.

Actually, they don't. They say that a sin is "...doing what is wrong or not doing what is right according to God's rules" (emphasis is mine, from the allaboutgod.com site).

Original sin, according to aboutcatholics.com: "Original Sin is the sin inherited by all humankind from Adam in his disobedience of God’s command not to eat from the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge" (emphasis is mine). That's a far cry from "acknowledgement that we're all bound to do something wrong at some point in our life." The very idea that anyone can inherit a wrongdoing of any kind is repugnant and morally bankrupt. No reasonable law will ever require me to serve time for a murder committed by my grandfather, but some guy in a funny hat can claim I inherited the wrongdoing of a guy who allegedly lived thousands of years ago.

The story of genesis is viewed as symbolic. The sin of Adam and Eve symbolizes the human condition. One that you and I both agree with - that none of us are perfectly good and that the potential to do wrong exists in all of us.

As for the definition of sin, it seems you're being disagreeable and obtuse on purpose. Nothing you're posting is contradicting anything I said in several different ways now - that sin is the religious term for wrong.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: morality is subjective and people don't have free will - by Catholic_Lady - May 18, 2017 at 12:31 am

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