(May 18, 2017 at 9:47 am)SteveII Wrote:(May 17, 2017 at 10:07 pm)Aroura Wrote: No, we don't agree. Because I don't agree they are willful sinners, or that what they are doing it is objectively wrong. Yes, children's behavior needs correcting. But it is decidedly harmful to teach them, in addition to normal correction, that the reason they are like this is that they are born tainted sinners. That addition make all the difference.
I do appreciate you trying to make peace, CL, but teaching children they are born evil and the only thing that can erase that evil is belief in Jesus, (NOT their own behavior or other choices), is vile to me.
I've sadly had dealings with groups such as The Good New Club.
Who is teaching a two year old that they a born tainted sinners? You are blowing this way out of proportion!
Now you are pivoting to the term "evil" to make your objection appear stronger. Evil is a moral term and we have already established that a young child is not morally responsible. The point has always been that we are born knowing how to be selfish, intolerant, harmful, etc. and need to be taught these things are wrong.
My bold.
I don't deny that there are extremists out there who may do this, though it's far from the mainstream.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
