(May 18, 2017 at 7:38 am)Ben Davis Wrote:(May 12, 2017 at 8:15 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: What makes it epic? Is it; because, it wasn't concerning any point, that Neo was making. Also the analogy, seems to completely miss the point!
Because it means God is not omniscient. Neo was claiming that omniscience means knowing stuff just after it's happened and that's an internally self-refuting definition.
Sti... Cyber's analogy was witty, funny, elegant, relatable and exposed a flaw that I don't think Neo (and certainly not you) realised was there.
Epic win!
Perhaps Neo can clarify, but I do t think that Neo holds anything against the orthodox and classic understanding of omniscience. What he was discussing was the how God can know the future, in which he was postulating a theory of time, where God is present and knows all points in time. That was my understanding anyway, so as per the norm, I believe the atheist victory dance is pre-mature.
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