RE: Consciousness Trilemma
May 25, 2017 at 3:07 pm
(This post was last modified: May 25, 2017 at 3:16 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(May 25, 2017 at 2:55 pm)Hammy Wrote: But the fact he thinks qualia is an illusion just demonstrates that he is talking nonsense.Or, that you're thick.
Quote:Watch this. Galen Strawson explains clearly and plainly how Dennett is talking nonsense.Except that he doesn't. He keeps conflating the term illusory with non-existent, and the non-existence of one object:the folkloric qualia, with the non-existence of another:whatever qualia actually is. This is the same mistake preempted by dennet, and discussed more than once in thi thread.
He demonstrates, by plainly saying..that he has no clue why anyone would advance these positions..he reckons it's because they;re incompatible with physics........parse that, he think nuerologists are chiefly concerned with physics. He goes on to say that he doesn't care what story "they" tell about the brain.
I'm sure he's a smart guy, but, like any other guy..when asked for a comment out of his area of expertise, he stumbles.
I'll explain, for you and for Strawson(lol)...one more time. To say that some aspect of qualia is illusory, is to say little more than that some aspect of a stage illusion....is a stage illusion. That it is a misapprehension. To say that the singular sense of self is not representative of any actual singular self, that it does not exist, is not to say that there is no system to which the term self refers.
(as regards free will, dennets on the record stating his opposition to epiphenomenalism, since he's not an epiphenomenalist, he thinks that mental events can be causal. This is his version of free will)
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