Debunking Christianity? It's actually quite as simple as asking "why?"

[Boris Spacek]

It doesn't matter how many times you ask me to disprove it, in fact, it doesn't matter how many times I might annihilate a myth. The only thing that matters is that you claim that such a thing exists. You have obviously given thought to the attributes of god, or the hows and whys, but none of this is meaningful if the thing you are describing with the word god does not exist. I could describe the invisible red line that connects every human being to the cosmos by the navel, put forward theories as to how it could connect to the cosmos, and our navel, or form a logical argument that allowed for the possibility of such a thing......nonetheless, this is all meaningless until I can show evidence of the invisible red line itself.

The constant insistence that theists are just putting forward a possibility, that some new or novel idea is being presented is absurd and insulting to me. Your god is not some nebulous possibility, difficult to describe or define. Your god is well defined bronze age myth, with an established orthodoxy, and a laundry list of physical claims which have their own laundry list of counterclaims. If you want to argue for the god of the bible, do it. Don't feed me the deists god of possibility and then ask me to avert my eyes as you hurl yourself across the chasm between that god and your own.

Also

Harry Potter = perfect
perfection exists
ergo Harry Potter exists

I invite anyone else to insert whatever they hell they like into that argument just so we can get some really good ridicule going. I'm just tired of hearing it, maybe we could point everyone to a 40 page parody thread in the future, starting here.

Don't be so insulted; you're being overdramatic. God of the Bible, eh? Well, there are two notable gods of the Bible: the Old Hebrew God and the God of the New Testament, as arguments from theology, history, and anyone just skimming through the bible should make very clear. The Christian god is not a "well defined bronze age myth;" in fact, since you seem so skeptical that I'm even talking about the Christian God, here's where I'm getting these craaaaaazy ideas, and not reinventing them:

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/06612a.htm

The equation I gave you was a simple syllogism. I say God is perfection--obviously, to me, He is much more than that--but for now, as long as perfection exists, so should God. That's how algebra works. I've begun with an initial declaration and admittedly not gotten very far. About the only thing you could take issue with is whether perfection exists, which, strangely enough you seem to:

but none of this is meaningful if the thing you are describing with the word god does not exist.

So, you don't believe in perfection? .... I have nothing to say to that.

In your syllogism, you insist that Harry Potter is perfection...unfortunately you would be guilty of causing a duplicate local variable error, since everybody already knows Harry Potter is not perfection, but a moody, magical teen. However, were you to properly instantiate Harry Potter as your own character and not J K Rowling's, your argument would be perfectly sound. As an atheist (or Agnostic? or Liberal Arts graduate?), God shouldn't already be defined for you. So why do you keep rejecting my definition? You'll have no hope of arguing reasonably if you attack me on completely different fields.

Honestly, what do you think MY (since your fatigue could only be that subsequent to debates with fundamentalists and brick walls) God is?

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I don't need to prove God exists to engage the Young Atheist on his initial point of controversy.

Then in essence you have an invalid argument to start with. That street runs two ways. You say you do not have to prove god in order to engage the younger atheists? That said they do not have to disprove a god on the same count...the god argument the way I see it is a moot point of debate. Theists have absolutely no evidence, zilch that a god exists. Their claim rest solely on the pages of a book written solely by men, with questionable authorship to start with, who claim they are writing in the name of a god. Your resting your entire claim of a god on this? Weak, very weak.....

Gooooooood griiiieeeeef! I think I see why people keep harassing me about this. The Young Atheist is the guy who posted the original thread "Debunking Christianity? It's actually quite...." If you read his initial argument, which my initial post was a direct response to, you'll see that proving God was never the issue. Yes, there was a reason I wrote "Young Atheist," instead of the younger atheists. Anyway, for the very reason you provide, I haven't been pursuing arguments that God exists on the basis of scripture since, despite the doctrine of the infallibility of scripture, they were written by men, and various things can compel them to write, yes.