RE: Consciousness Trilemma
May 28, 2017 at 11:20 am
(This post was last modified: May 28, 2017 at 11:32 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(May 28, 2017 at 11:09 am)Hammy Wrote: Dennett: [...]In fact one of the abiding themes in my work is--there are these tactical or diplomatic choice points--... you can say... "Oh consciousness exists... it just isn't what you think it is." or you can say "No, consciousness doesn't exist." Well, if you've got one view of consciousness...if it's this mysterious, magical ultimately insoluble problem--then I agree consciousness in that sense [it] doesn't exist. But... there's another sense--much more presentable I think--in which of course consciousness exists it just isn't what you think it is. That was a central theme in Elbow Room with regard to free will and in Consciousness Explained with regard to consciousness. [...]Of course consciousness exists? What a dirty, dirty consciousness denier that dennet is!
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@The rest. Yes, again, he thinks that some,specific, mental states that most people believe in are illusory. He doesn;t think much of the humonculus in the cartesian theater. He understand that we, and he..feels that way, but he doesn't think that this is what we are, that it actually -is- that way.
What do you think? Is there a little physical man, as it were, in the space of your mind, such as it is, acting and making decisions? Will we find that, or a mental state that maps to that, in our brains? If not, then what? Will we suddenly cease to feel that way? What would you call that feeling? Is there no other conceivable way that such a feeling could be produced or achieved or arrived at, other than it's inassaultable truth? Does there have to be a man in your head, for you to feel like there's a man in your head? Do you have to have free will, to feel as though you have free will? Is the sheer existence of the experience, in either case, a certification of that experience's accuracy as-stated?
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