RE: Consciousness Trilemma
May 30, 2017 at 10:47 pm
(This post was last modified: May 30, 2017 at 11:09 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Then consciousness doesn't exist, since there is no such happening, only the happened, Benny.
That's kind of the crux of their entire point. If -you- insist that consciousness is something that it is not and cannot be, then consciousness does not exist. That it seems that way, to you, to all of us...is no certifier that it is that way...and specifically in this case, it demonstrably isn't and logically could not be..in the absence of some unknown element x. I mean that in the strongest possible sense. Some unkown element x that is distinct from the brain, and has it's very own physics, unrelated to or divorced from the physics of literally every other object in existence....but also some unknown element x that can forcibly overcome the limitations of the brain. See, we know the brain can't do what you think consciousness is. So whatever consciousness actually is is not only capable of doing that thing..but jacking the brain into lockstep with it, in spite of it's limitations. It's capable of fooling your brain into thinking that you're doing what cannot be done.
Obviously, no one attempting a material explanation of consciousness wastes much time with that noise. Maybe, just maybe, it's not some mysterious element x doing any of that, but the brain itself.
That's kind of the crux of their entire point. If -you- insist that consciousness is something that it is not and cannot be, then consciousness does not exist. That it seems that way, to you, to all of us...is no certifier that it is that way...and specifically in this case, it demonstrably isn't and logically could not be..in the absence of some unknown element x. I mean that in the strongest possible sense. Some unkown element x that is distinct from the brain, and has it's very own physics, unrelated to or divorced from the physics of literally every other object in existence....but also some unknown element x that can forcibly overcome the limitations of the brain. See, we know the brain can't do what you think consciousness is. So whatever consciousness actually is is not only capable of doing that thing..but jacking the brain into lockstep with it, in spite of it's limitations. It's capable of fooling your brain into thinking that you're doing what cannot be done.
Obviously, no one attempting a material explanation of consciousness wastes much time with that noise. Maybe, just maybe, it's not some mysterious element x doing any of that, but the brain itself.
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