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morality is subjective and people don't have free will
RE: morality is subjective and people don't have free will
(June 5, 2017 at 8:39 am)Zenith Wrote: I was actually considering starting a new thread on morality, to explain this. I see morality as man's understanding of what's "helpful" and what is "harmful" for the community the man lives in. And I believe that there is no "abyss" between harmful and helpful in such a way that a thing could be either "helpful" or "harmful" but not both. Rather people usually try to find the thing that is most helpful and does the least harm in a specific circumstance, using the understanding and the knowledge they have available - that's morality.

Trying to declare morality as "objective", i.e. as something unchangeable, is basically forcing a solution that worked 2000 years ago onto a problem that exists in completely different circumstances, and therefore is no longer helpful.

Harmful vs helpful -is- an objective morality.  Just as "more than and less than" is an objective description of two piles of money, even when the size of each pile keeps changing.
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RE: morality is subjective and people don't have free will - by The Grand Nudger - June 5, 2017 at 9:23 am

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