RE: Consciousness Trilemma
June 6, 2017 at 11:10 am
(This post was last modified: June 6, 2017 at 11:18 am by The Grand Nudger.)
To be fair, eliminitive materialists also suggest that language (among other things) foists a lie upon our understanding. That's why I can't identify the actual point of disagreement (other than the notion that some theory of mind imperils a moral view). Both eliminitive materialsts and the two conversing with me all agree that nothing in the brain accounts for our experience. That there isn't anything in there that fits our description -of- experience. But hey, there I go making distinctions between discrete systems like "Benny", "Neo", and "Eliminitive materialists". Maybe we need a new term to refer to all three more accurately as one. I have suggestions, most of them in koine greek.........lol
They seem to be looking for a problem with the position itself, but can only muster an endless litany of ways that the position may rub against some other idea they have. That;s not a problem with the position itself, somebody is chasing ghosts.
"But how does eliminitive materialism account for the specifics of my belief in the immaterial origin of consciousness and/or the entire universe!"
It doesn't. Kindof goes without saying, doesn't it...as a materialist position on the nature of consciousness? Ultimately, where others must fall back on substance x, or alternate universe x...it just says "hmn, guess we were wrong about that".
"But how does it account for the possibility that objects are not discrete"
It doesn't, and doesn't have to, but the truth of that position would necessarily demonstrate the truth of their position.
They seem to be looking for a problem with the position itself, but can only muster an endless litany of ways that the position may rub against some other idea they have. That;s not a problem with the position itself, somebody is chasing ghosts.
"But how does eliminitive materialism account for the specifics of my belief in the immaterial origin of consciousness and/or the entire universe!"
It doesn't. Kindof goes without saying, doesn't it...as a materialist position on the nature of consciousness? Ultimately, where others must fall back on substance x, or alternate universe x...it just says "hmn, guess we were wrong about that".
"But how does it account for the possibility that objects are not discrete"
It doesn't, and doesn't have to, but the truth of that position would necessarily demonstrate the truth of their position.
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