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Origin of Matter
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RE: Origin of Matter
Almost. We can't extrapolate from within the cosmos to the cosmos itself without more evidence than we have, so the cosmos may or may not obey some conservation principle of it's own. The evidence is highly suggestive that the 'energy balance' of the cosmos must be at or very close to zero, for instance.

Right, but even with a zero ‘energy balance’ there still exists a positive energy to counter the negative energy.  I’m wondering the origin of that positive energy.


I’m struggling with reconciling these two comments.  Can you clarify a bit further? (1) Matter and energy only transforming and never being created or destroyed is a principle that applies within the cosmos and does not necessarily apply to the cosmos. (2)
Energy is created and destroyed all the time at the truly micro (quantum) level.  Would it be correct to state that matter and energy can be created and destroyed within the cosmos due to the actions at the micro level?

At the quantum level, the universe is constantly going 0=-1+1=0 over and over. The math works (though it's currently just a hypothesis that we can't yet test) for one of these 0=-1+1=0 events to occasionally undergo runaway expansion, and that is a possible origin for our cosmos.

If one of the events occasionally undergoes runaway expansion which is a possible origin for the cosmos, we’re still left with figuring out the origin of those events that precedes the expansion (for example, the +1 in the equation 0=-1+1=0).


It's hard to wrap your head around, but even without space and time, these quantum vacuum fluctuations cause tiny 'blips' of space-time, and once you've got space-time out of a vacuum fluctuation, you've got energy, and if it keeps expanding, some of that energy will 'condense' into matter.

 
Is it your position that quantum vacuum fluctuations are truly null/void of any energy, matter, etc.?  If not, can you comment on what a quantum vacuum fluctuation contains, if we know at all?  Thanks.
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Origin of Matter - by RedSox - June 5, 2017 at 12:26 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by brewer - June 5, 2017 at 12:30 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by Minimalist - June 5, 2017 at 12:33 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by RedSox - June 5, 2017 at 1:19 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by downbeatplumb - June 5, 2017 at 1:31 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by RedSox - June 5, 2017 at 2:06 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by downbeatplumb - June 5, 2017 at 2:16 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by Minimalist - June 5, 2017 at 1:33 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by vorlon13 - June 5, 2017 at 1:56 pm
Origin of Matter - by LadyForCamus - June 5, 2017 at 2:23 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by RedSox - June 5, 2017 at 2:38 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by RedSox - June 5, 2017 at 2:42 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by Alex K - June 5, 2017 at 3:32 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by RedSox - June 5, 2017 at 4:01 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by LadyForCamus - June 5, 2017 at 4:03 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by Mister Agenda - June 6, 2017 at 10:17 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by RedSox - June 6, 2017 at 11:02 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by Mister Agenda - June 6, 2017 at 5:03 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by RedSox - June 7, 2017 at 10:01 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by Anomalocaris - June 5, 2017 at 2:26 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by LastPoet - June 5, 2017 at 2:54 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by brewer - June 5, 2017 at 3:39 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by Alex K - June 5, 2017 at 3:51 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by Alex K - June 5, 2017 at 4:28 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by Alex K - June 5, 2017 at 4:35 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by RedSox - June 5, 2017 at 9:55 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by Succubus - June 6, 2017 at 12:06 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by Alex K - June 6, 2017 at 3:38 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by RedSox - June 6, 2017 at 9:48 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by Pat Mustard - June 12, 2017 at 4:43 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by ignoramus - June 5, 2017 at 7:20 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by Alex K - June 6, 2017 at 3:55 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by vorlon13 - June 6, 2017 at 9:54 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by vorlon13 - June 5, 2017 at 10:42 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by Fireball - June 6, 2017 at 12:13 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by Fireball - June 6, 2017 at 12:00 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by Bunburryist - June 6, 2017 at 12:28 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by Alex K - June 7, 2017 at 10:21 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by RedSox - June 7, 2017 at 10:53 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by downbeatplumb - June 7, 2017 at 1:58 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by RedSox - June 7, 2017 at 2:19 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by Mister Agenda - June 12, 2017 at 9:38 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by RedSox - June 12, 2017 at 10:18 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by Mister Agenda - June 13, 2017 at 10:10 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by FatAndFaithless - June 7, 2017 at 2:07 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by ignoramus - June 10, 2017 at 5:41 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by Pat Mustard - June 10, 2017 at 6:51 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by RedSox - June 10, 2017 at 9:21 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by Ben Davis - June 10, 2017 at 7:29 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by LastPoet - June 10, 2017 at 7:34 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by Ben Davis - June 10, 2017 at 9:28 am

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