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Origin of Matter
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RE: Origin of Matter
As long as we remain in the realm of science, there will always be the question: and where does that come from, or, why is that the way it is.
 
Understood.  If we’re always left asking “where does that come from” would that logically lead to the belief that at least one of the following is infinite past (has always been)?: energy or matter or quantum fluctuations or really anything that is not null/void.
 
While we can try to find more general underlying principles which unify our explanations of the universe and have predictive power, there is always the possibility to keep asking. Any description or explanation that is currently the most fundamental we have, is at that frontier where the answer to that next question is inevitably "we don't know". The crucial ability any good thinker has to have is to be very curious, but at the same time be comfortable with not knowing something for now. You have to resist filling that frontier with quick answers that provide an illusion of closure.
 
I do find joy in seeking and studying the wonder of it all.  And curiosity is something I encourage to others as well.

What are quantum fluctuations? I've written something upthread about what the term means in physics. They are an aspect of our currently best description of nature. Where do they come from, what are they *really*? To the extent that this is even a valid well defined question, it is not known. They are something nature seems to do, and we can describe it mathematically and measure their effect...
 
Thank you for expanding on that a bit.  Since nature seems to do quantum fluctuations, they are, for lack of a better word, orchestrated or controlled by nature… would you agree, disagree, stupid question, etc.?  Smile   Additionally, would you say nature is infinite, finite, we don’t know, etc.?  This is assuming the definition of nature from Webster’s is acceptable: “a creative and controlling force in the universe,”  “the external world in its entirety,” “the genetically controlled qualities of an organism.” Thanks.
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Origin of Matter - by RedSox - June 5, 2017 at 12:26 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by brewer - June 5, 2017 at 12:30 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by Minimalist - June 5, 2017 at 12:33 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by RedSox - June 5, 2017 at 1:19 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by downbeatplumb - June 5, 2017 at 1:31 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by RedSox - June 5, 2017 at 2:06 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by downbeatplumb - June 5, 2017 at 2:16 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by Minimalist - June 5, 2017 at 1:33 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by vorlon13 - June 5, 2017 at 1:56 pm
Origin of Matter - by LadyForCamus - June 5, 2017 at 2:23 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by RedSox - June 5, 2017 at 2:38 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by RedSox - June 5, 2017 at 2:42 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by Alex K - June 5, 2017 at 3:32 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by RedSox - June 5, 2017 at 4:01 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by LadyForCamus - June 5, 2017 at 4:03 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by Mister Agenda - June 6, 2017 at 10:17 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by RedSox - June 6, 2017 at 11:02 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by Mister Agenda - June 6, 2017 at 5:03 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by RedSox - June 7, 2017 at 10:01 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by Anomalocaris - June 5, 2017 at 2:26 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by LastPoet - June 5, 2017 at 2:54 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by brewer - June 5, 2017 at 3:39 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by Alex K - June 5, 2017 at 3:51 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by Alex K - June 5, 2017 at 4:28 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by Alex K - June 5, 2017 at 4:35 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by RedSox - June 5, 2017 at 9:55 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by Succubus - June 6, 2017 at 12:06 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by Alex K - June 6, 2017 at 3:38 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by RedSox - June 6, 2017 at 9:48 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by Pat Mustard - June 12, 2017 at 4:43 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by ignoramus - June 5, 2017 at 7:20 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by Alex K - June 6, 2017 at 3:55 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by vorlon13 - June 6, 2017 at 9:54 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by vorlon13 - June 5, 2017 at 10:42 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by Fireball - June 6, 2017 at 12:13 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by Fireball - June 6, 2017 at 12:00 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by Bunburryist - June 6, 2017 at 12:28 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by Alex K - June 7, 2017 at 10:21 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by RedSox - June 7, 2017 at 10:53 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by downbeatplumb - June 7, 2017 at 1:58 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by RedSox - June 7, 2017 at 2:19 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by Mister Agenda - June 12, 2017 at 9:38 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by RedSox - June 12, 2017 at 10:18 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by Mister Agenda - June 13, 2017 at 10:10 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by FatAndFaithless - June 7, 2017 at 2:07 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by ignoramus - June 10, 2017 at 5:41 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by Pat Mustard - June 10, 2017 at 6:51 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by RedSox - June 10, 2017 at 9:21 pm
RE: Origin of Matter - by Ben Davis - June 10, 2017 at 7:29 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by LastPoet - June 10, 2017 at 7:34 am
RE: Origin of Matter - by Ben Davis - June 10, 2017 at 9:28 am

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