(June 11, 2017 at 7:08 am)Adventurer Wrote: I need someone to break stereotypes that atheists are far from disciplined due to their 'lack of faith but also fear in God' as an agent in governing individual discipline. Theists have often argued that atheists are corrupt, drug too much, do not keep their house tidy, do not eat proper food, party too much, have sex with multiple partners/commit to adultery whilst married with kids and slacken off excessively.
I would like to hear about atheists and how they do with self-discipline, self-regulation and responsibility as well as atheist parents who regulate discipline on their kids.
Regardless of the definition of atheism, I'd like to hear from you atheists as humans examples of discipline you do develop and regulate in yourselves (and if parents, on your children).
I am an atheist of moderate to at times rigorous discipline but I won't tell - I'd like to hear a substantial amount of examples from you before I may tell mine. I'm just sick of being ostracised, ridiculed and laughed at by many atheists for being 'too weird, religious and stuff' when I exhibit rigorous self-discipline and regulation and instead being told to 'loosen up' too frequently.
Honestly, I don't really think one's beliefs or non-beliefs have anything to do with how clean they keep a house.
I have four kids. I was a believer up until say, five and a half years ago, when I finally woke up and started using logic. None of that - before or after - has had any impact on how I discipline myself, my kids or how clean I keep a house etc.
We are people. People with different backgrounds, experiences, careers, education, personalities, etc. What the heck does not believing in a deity have anything to do with how one cleans, is responsible etc?
As for parenting - I use humor and embarrassment to discipline my kids rather than whippings because embarrassing them is just so much more fun when they get in trouble. I don't need a god to tell me how to raise my kids nor do I need to take bad advice from a holy book that promotes raping of one's own daughters when no one else is available. I teach my kids to question everything. I teach them to question religious teachings that don't jive with common sense. Sure, religion, in some capacity tells us to love each other - but so does common sense. I don't need a representative of god to tell me things I should already know how to do.
I think that most of the negative stereotyping of atheists you are mentioning comes directly from religious folk because they can't stand that we don't believe in their false bs. So they get mad and start saying we are this, or we do that, when in reality - they are hypocrites because outside of the church time, they smoke cigarettes, can be found drinking in bars, they have hoarders in their own circles, they are abusive to their kids and spouses, have no self-discipline... oh I could go on and on here.
They too, are everything you mentioned. So honestly, what's the difference other than they believe in a god and we don't.
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