RE: Origin of Matter
June 12, 2017 at 4:43 pm
(This post was last modified: June 12, 2017 at 4:46 pm by Pat Mustard.)
(June 6, 2017 at 9:48 am)RedSox Wrote:(June 6, 2017 at 3:38 am)Alex K Wrote: Quantum flucuations is a term that is thrown around a lot, and I want to avoid the impression that it is a catch-all term for obfuscation a la "it's a miracle". The term has a precise definition. In quantum physics (i.e. in physics once you look close enough) most if not all quantities seem to be intrinsically uncertain. Take any quantity such as the velocity of a particle. Try as you may to give it a precise velocity from the outset, it will only lead to an uncertainty in its position, seemingly existing in many places at once until it is observed, which in turn spoils any velocity measurement. The fields that are present in otherwise empty space are subject to the same thing. If you try to imbue them with a value of precisely zero, they automatically will have a rate of change that renders them non-zero. Likewise, the fields governing the geometry of spacetime can be assumed to be subject to this, and one effect of that is that the universe can spontaneously expand and dump all the excess energy into its own contents in the form of particles.
If you ask me why do these fields exist and why are the dynamics such that these fluctuations occur, I'd have to say nobody knows probably.
Thanks, AK, for that description of quantum fluctuations. Do you have any thoughts on the origin of positive energy?
No matter how far you dig you're not going to get the gotcha! moment of "goddidit". All you're doing is digging a hole to China.
(June 10, 2017 at 9:21 pm)RedSox Wrote:(June 10, 2017 at 6:51 am)Tazzycorn Wrote: 1) Well matter does beget other matter the whole time (well to be precise, it causes other matter to be recombinated into new forms), 2) this is an observed process at the quantum level, 3) well seeing as the definition of supernatural is "something which only exists outside reality" that's a non starter, like trying to argue for invisible pink unicorns, 4) is 3) with a slightly different name like the way MaccyD's relabelled their famous salmonella burgers as Big Macs. Doesn't change a thing.
So your attempt to shoehorn a gotcha! moment into a forum dedicated to educated and informed thinking not only fails but makes you look like an idiot into the bargain. You must be proud.
We've already covered what you discuss in your post. If you'd like to be helpful, read the entire thread and answer my latest question.
I find little reason to be helpful to those whose thinking begins and ends at "goddidit". When you get past that point, I'll reconsider.
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