I'm done. I'm just done. I really can't take it anymore

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I feel like you must not frequent the forum much or only see a part of it. We have a lot of conservative long-time members. Even the guy who formed the forum has some conservative views, though he's socially liberal to some degree. There is a ton of political disagreement here. It's been going on for years. I get into political debates on here quite regularly. They certainly aren't threads filled with people all agreeing and patting each other on the back.

As for it being one person, you were talking about headlines. Those headlines come from a small group of people, possibly even just one.

I lurk here almost every day. What you are saying is just not true. If you look at the political discourse in these forums and see reasoned and rational discussion, then I really have no reply. I could go over the discussion going on in the non- Min created threads on the front page point by point if you want and tell you how I interpret it.

I can also tell you that I am a centrist and personally get attacked on here politically for being right wing (even though that's not even true) viciously enough that it makes me lurk more than participate. I also have privately talked multiple people who either quit talking politics here or quit the forums altogether because of it. I'm not even a conservative, but to be one here you would need a very thick skin.

Huh? There's either a bunch of people just agreeing with each other or there isn't. Which is it? I'm not arguing that there's a bunch of reasoned debates going on. I'm arguing that it's not a bunch of people agreeing with each other, that we have people from all angles in these discussions.

People who want to talk politics should have thick skin. If they couldn't take being criticized, then I'm personally glad they don't participate. I've been called liberal. I've been called right wing. Yadda yada. To be fair, you're not exactly a fainting flower in your interactions here, so what's your problem with other people being dicks too?

What I'm saying is true. I've been on these forums for a very long time. The conservatives I know here also have been. We've also had conservatives in the past who wouldn't back down from the liberals here. I find it bizarre that you seem to think this is a mostly left-wing forum. We have a lot of socially liberal leaning people, but I think that's because we're mostly atheists. We don't have god to excuse our shitty treatment of minorities and not-straight folks. Maybe you define left wing differently. *shrugs*

politically there is very little disagreement on here

This. This is not correct.

Guys, I never said there isn't a liberal lean. I said there isn't an absence of conservatives and disagreements.