(June 23, 2017 at 3:27 pm)bennyboy Wrote:(June 23, 2017 at 2:19 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: If you don't believe in god you are an atheist. You may be an atheist because you are unsure, but if you answer no to the question "do you believe in god" you're an atheist.
. . . or if you answer, "I don't know."
(June 23, 2017 at 2:31 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Neat little description of the relationship between atheism and agnosticism.
An agnostic atheist is how I'd describe myself, though with certain definitions of gods I'd feel confident saying they definitely don't exist (a god that violates the laws of logic, for example).
Is there any well-formed definition of God about which you are agnostic, or only the general idea?
I'd say I'm gnostic on the absence of Abrahamic gods, Krshna, etc. etc.: I'm a gnostic atheist. But on the general question "Do you believe God exists?" then I find it very hard to answer that: under some definitions, I may think God is necessary, under others, impossible. It's a kind of quantum superposition, where the answer is determined by how we interact with it, rather than any truth value of its own.
For example, if you say, "God is that which allows for existence rather than non-existence" I'd say it's a pretty unusual definition, but it's necessarily true, and mysterious enough maybe to be worth calling it that.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
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