RE: Objective morality as a proper basic belief
June 24, 2017 at 8:45 am
(This post was last modified: June 24, 2017 at 8:46 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 24, 2017 at 5:19 am)Little Henry Wrote: If that is the case, then it seems incoherent to condemn such acts.How it seems to you is a good example of something you take to be factual, which is non-factual.
Quote:We know taste in food is subjective, if ISIS members ate a food you disliked, would you condemn them and say them eating and enjoying that food is wrong?Is it babies?
Quote:So if morality is also subjective, why would you say it is wrong what ISIS members do when they rape little girls?Even for a person who sees morality as a wholly subjective affair..they still have their own subjective morality and their subjective morality probably contains the moral judgement "rape is wrong, child molestation is wrong"
Quote:I mean, you will never say it is wrong if they eat and enjoy a food you dislike, so why you say they are doing something wrong if they rape a little girl?Well, again, are the eating babies? People say that rape is wrong because that's an accurate representation of their moral judgement in the matter in question.
Quote:If you really believed morality is subjective, then when you hear that they rape little girls, you would respond in a way such as "well, i find that disgusting, but its not wrong".That;s not at all what a person who accepted a subjective morality would do. Obviously, they;d tell you that rape is wrong, if their subjective morality said that rape was wrong?
Quote:Is that what you believe?Me, personally? No. I think that morality can be objective, at least.. and that rape is wrong. Most of the people you will find here also think that rape is wrong, even if they think that morality is subjective. Let's use your woeful food analogy.
If I told you that I thought chocolate was better than vanilla....and you said "well, that's just like, your opinion..man" - I'd say.."yes, yes that -is- my opinion....." The same is true of a person who holds a subjective morality. A person who holds (or accepts that they hold) a ubjective morality can say to you..rape is wrong, and when you pull the lebowski on them..they'll look at you like you have a dick growing out of your forehead and say
"Yes, it -is- my opinion that rape is wrong"
They'll also wonder if, just maybe, you have a little girl in your basement.
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