Conservative Atheism

[The Grand Nudger]

you are talking about allowing a permanent underclass

Who is...the only person who -could- be talking about that is a person who insists that laws be maintained such as to create one....and that, my friend...would not be me or anyone against our current immigration policies.

Temet Nosce.

 
A lot of illegals die just getting here.
When they do get here they are often exploited by unscrupulous employers

They wouldn't have to if they could just, you know, drive their car or take a bus.  They couldn't -be- exploited in such a way if we actually enforced those laws we have that are good and dencet and useful laws...rather than the migrant blue law set.  How about we take every dollar for a wall and for ice, and prosecute the shit out of exploitative business?  Hey, maybe then, some useless taker of an american might be able to get a job back when no one will risk hiring an illegal for sub-minimum wages?

Employers who hire illegals, are competing at an unfair advantage and that artificially keeps profits and wages low.  Ask any legitimate roofing contractor what they think about illegal immigration, that industry has been all but gutted buy exploiting companies who pay immigrants far below market wage for their labor.  Illegals are paid very close to the same take home as regular labor, but the employer saves on not having to match SS, and med, and they are not paying withholding taxes on the illegals.  They are paid in cash, under the table.

They're your "criminals and rapists" then...huh, your bad hombres, your social parasites, your diseased masses.......not the mexicans, the people employing them in order to exploit them.  Maybe we can build a wall around their business?

The only reason this continues is that immigration law has not been enforced.

What a silly thing to say.  The immigration laws -created- the shadow class that exploiters depend on.  

If illegal immigration were drastically slowed down, and the illegals deported we would see a labor shortage.  A labor shortage leads to decreased profits that leads to a lobby getting a law passed to allow immigrant labor into the US in some sort of a legal manner.

Ojh, I see, if we kicked them all out like you and the fuhrer want...that would lead...in fantasy land...to a situation in which we graciously begged them to return?  Have you completely checked out of reality?

In the end we would still end up with large amounts of immigrant labor but they would not be exploited.

or...or...I know this sounds crazy..but we could cut out all the shitty middle manning cruelty you have in mind and just..you know, remove exploiters means of exploitation entirely, rather than removing the people they exploit?  

"Hey fellas, we have a rape epidemic in this country..let;s deport all the women!" - what could possibly go or be wrong with that.  

This happens when the law is followed, not when we exploit them.

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