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Objective morality as a proper basic belief
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RE: Objective morality as a proper basic belief
(June 24, 2017 at 3:05 pm)wallym Wrote: Saying rape is wrong because it objectively causes harm only shifts the argument to whether or not causing harm is wrong.
Sure, but it's an argument that I'm going to win with ease.  

Quote:Then when asked why causing harm is wrong, you say something about empathy which varies incredibly widely from person to person and species to species.  
I wouldn't say anything at all about empathy.  It's helpful, but not required.  Other species™ are patently irrelevant, I;m only concerned with a human morality for humans...and while we vary greatly....we share much, much more with each other than we differ - even in relation to other species. Fun fact, a brother and sister chimp share less with each other than -I- do with some guy halfway across the world in Shittistan™.

Quote:Nothing wrong with appealing to the common good.  But empathy is weak sauce as a foundation, particularly given the behavior of humans throughout history, where it's shown to be very different than 21st century 1st world countries than everywhere else.

Empathy, as a tool, is limited...and we don't always employ it well..true.

(June 24, 2017 at 4:57 pm)Aroura Wrote: We cannot aply our morals derived today to any other place and time.

We can, but the application is limited (just closing the door before some christer flings himself through it).
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RE: Objective morality as a proper basic belief - by The Grand Nudger - June 24, 2017 at 4:57 pm

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