(June 23, 2017 at 9:37 pm)Succubus Wrote:Well put(June 23, 2017 at 2:19 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: If you don't believe in god you are an atheist. You may be an atheist because you are unsure, but if you answer no to the question "do you believe in god" you're an atheist.
You've nailed it, It doesn’t need to be complicated.
Q. 'Do you believe in god?'
A. 'I'm an agnostic.'
And immediately we have a disconnect, a non sequitur. It's an answer to a question that wasn't asked, why do people do this? For many years I was an agnostic atheist; it can't be known if god exists but I don't believe that god exists. Then one day on the road to Tesco's I had an epiphany. Of course it can be known! He can show up and do some god stuff, two thousand years and our man's still a no show. Well apart from pareidoliac* images on slices of toast, dogs arse's, wood panels and piss stains.
So I'm an atheist, and not a window dresser 6.9 recurring decimal atheist, I'm an all the way up to eleven gnostic atheist. I know 'God' does not exist.
And the screams are deafening, "But you can't prove that!"
No proof required, I am under no obligation to prove the non existence of an entity that cannot exist. The rules by which the universe operates proscribes such an entity. For example: the energy usage required to handle all the data that god constantly monitors of his seven billion currently active subjects would be so huge that it wouldn't need a small to medium hadron collider to detect, it would register on a £2.99 Aldi multimeter. He is also constantly monitoring and recording seven billion mind states @32 fps? you know, the soul? What's the point of having a soul if its not an accurate record of everything we have ever experienced?
According to people who know things the memory capacity of the human brain is about a terabyte. Now supposing the Russians for whatever reason decide to explode a tzar bobma W over London Paris, we now have ~one million vaporized human beings. Every part of them + petabyte of memory is now a rapidly expanding cloud of plasma. Now according to people who claim to know things but don't, at the precise moment of their demise a snapshot of all these one million peoples lives is recorded so that they be reanimated in heaven. Or was it burn in hell? One million terabytes of data to defragment in a plank second?
Christians. Would you just pleeease fuck off!
* Not a real word apparentl
My journey from born-again christian to atheist had a short layover in agnostic town. For me giving up hope of eternity was liberating and scary. Now I see the difference between agnostic and atheist, because there is no part of me that believes this god shit is true. It was like taking that final step of bravery to jump off the mountain of BS. I have no problem with agnostics, because for many it helps people deal with death and the unknown. If you really think about it it does the same as religion. Keeps you hopeful based on emotional faith.
I was a born-again christian for many years then I got woke.. and now life is better in so many ways. It's taking me time to see my value and find my voice, but the reward is liberating knowing my path is not dictated or controlled by fear of death and the unknown. Casting off the shackles of religion is pretty fucking awesome. The beautiful people I've met on this forum have more heart and compassion than any group of people I've been apart of. So back off Jesus and followers, because this bitch is done with Chu. 
