Is atheism self-contradictory ?

[The Grand Nudger]

I suggest you take a moment to think about what I'm saying and resist the urge to reply quickly with anything. I said that a perfect being can't leave his creation without guidance, because absolute fairness is one of his attributes. It follows that there HAS to be some kind of a connection between Him and his creatures. I don't see how this means that He doesn't exist.

Sorry, just not a slow witted person.  If a perfect being can't leave his creation without guidance, then there is no perfect being.  This, assuming, ofc, we're the creation of some being.  The notion that there just has to be some kind of a connection doesn't follow from that statement.  It;s a complete non-sequitur...and, conveniently, an article of your faith.

Then it is clear that you didn't understand my argument, so I'll repeat it again : an absolutely fair God must guide his creatures towards Him, this does NOT imply that he should prove himself to everyone of them independently, because only under that assumption we can say God doesn't exist because it didn't happen. But since you don't care about any of this, I won't waste anymore time repeating it to you either. 

Interesting sideline, but nothing to do with any of my comments.  

Except no believer rejected the Qur'an or was convinced of his imitability because The Curious George series or Where's Waldo were more accurate.

Do you expect a muslim to stop being a muslim for reading about a monkey?  I mean, what are you really saying here, other than that muslims are thick headed, honestly?

Again, you didn't understand the argument, you're just replying. Saying that Muhammad wasn't rational is absolute nonsense,

You're the one that said it, you just didn't want to follow through..just like the bit above.  Instead, you launched off into a non-sequitur....jjust like you did above.

If no rational person would do x, and a person does x...then that person is not rational.

the man successfully convinced thousands of his contemporaries -

Just like every disgraced televangelist.... ?

 and 1.6 billion people currently

"He" didn't do that, you're really not giving credit where credit is due.....and really, does it matter how many likes and subs he got?  This is an argument ad popolum.  An appeal to the masses.  Just because alot of people believe something..doesn't mean that it's true.  How many people believe in the trinity..in your estimation?  How does this establish rationality?

- that he was the Messenger of God,

Well, -a- messenger of god.  It;s good that there were others or he;d have been super short on material, amiright or amiright?

united the whole Arabian Peninsula under one flag, then defeated the Great Powers of his time : the Roman and Sasanian Empires.

You mean to say, here, that he was a warlord....and that this somehow establishes his credentials as gods pr secretary?  Speaking of the romans...they conquered the world...did that mean that they were the pagan gods pr secretaries?  Does this establish the veracity of -their- god beliefs...in your estiomation? How is any of this, for that matter, even supposed to show that he was rational?

What do you need more from him to prove to you that he was rational ?

-Anything to show that he was rational...and definitely not some argument from one of his believers that no rational person would do what he did.  Seems counter-productive.

Yes, Muhammad was a very rational person, and you don't need to be a Muslim to acknowledge that.

Okay?

Now imagine this same rational person saying to someone that he's going to Hell because he rejects the message of Islam for non-rational reasons WHILE THIS PERSON IS STILL ALIVE. ALL he had to do is to claim that he's a muslim, all muslims will therefore know that Muhammad was mistaken in predicting that Abu Lahab will never become a Muslim, therfore Muhammad is lying to them. Is that rational to you ?

You religious nitwits constantly bicker about how the other is going to go to hell and it -never- seems to hurt any of your credibility with your respective flocks.  No, Pars...nothing about literally anything you've said to me is rational.  That's the problem.

No, you got it all wrong. You claimed that the Qur'an recorded that Muhammad quoted specifically from Christian books. It turned out that this wasn't the exact meaning of the verses. 

Okay cupcake.  If you say so.  

And good luck with bringing the entirety of my religion down, I'll be glad.

I think that muslims are handling that nicely, they hardly need my help - as evidenced by your comments in thread.

No, buddy. After the verse 5. 25. here's how the Qur'an responds : 6. Say, “It was revealed by He who knows the Secret in the heavens and the earth. He is always Forgiving and Merciful.”.

Should I quote the verse again...so you can deny, again, that it says exactly what it does..again...like a very devout muslim?