(June 25, 2017 at 10:57 am)Brian37 Wrote:(June 25, 2017 at 10:26 am)KerimF Wrote: Do you mean I should act as a formal theist whose evidences have to found on some books, called holy, does.
I mean; how do I know the sources of your trusted evidences?
If you like talking about facts, let us try hearing the story about a fact which was witnessed by millions on earth. I am sure we will get hundreds of different, if not opposite, versions about it if we will have the opportunity to travel around the world. The reason is simple. People in different regions are usually raised to believe in different sources claimed having the truth. So I have no idea about yours (if there is any). On my side, I don't have any and I also don't need you to back up anything you may tell me because I know it has to be real and true to you in the least (assuming you are not kidding).
I could care less if you were arguing Jefferson's generic deist God. I could also care less if you were arguing that the universe itself was a God.
Our species is far older than the written language. Our species first bad guesses ended up being earthy gods like volcano and sun gods. On top of that our planet is 4 billion years old to which we've only been around a mere fraction of that time. On top of the universe being 13.8 billion years old. On top of our galaxy having hundreds of billions of suns, on top of our universe having nearly 200 billion galaxies in it.
So call your "God" whatever you want and define it however you want, seems a ton of waste to me if humans are allegedly the center of all this.
Maybe YOU need to consider there has never been such a critter and that "God" is merely a comic book reflection of human's qualities in their desire for a fictional forever.
Tell me why you don't accept the ocean God Poseidon as the gap answer to explain the cause of hurricanes? Tell me why you don't accept Thor as a gap answer to explain the cause of lightening?
Maybe you should consider that humans are finite and merely a temporary blip riding in giant weather pattern.
I am afraid that you have no time to read attentively all what I write on this thread.
I try discovering things (in any field that could be related to my nature) with the hope to have a better life.
In reality, knowing how to have a better life is a relative matter because it depends on one's nature in the first place. I mean what is good for someone may or may not be so to others. But rare persons, even on these days, can perceive clearly this 'Relativity' because it is much easier for them to believe in the 'Absolute'.
Anyway, it is not a crime if someone thinks that all humans should have the same nature (structure) of his. But, in this case, this person has no choice but seeing anyone who doesn't have his same main priorities in life as having illusions at best.
Should I repeat that, along history, the various religions then politics were created by men for the same main purpose?
So talking about ruling gods (religions) or human Elite (politics) sounds much like the same to me.
By the way, do you think a free independent person could exist in this world?
If you don't, you, unlike I, are used to be a follower of a certain ruling system (obviously not a religious one since you are not a formal theist).
