Non-existing objects

[KerimF]

To become a professional designer (in electronics) I had to accept notions of non-existing objects.

The geometrical dot is a simple example. By definition, it has no dimensions. But the entire Geometry is based on it; a non-existing object.
Also in geometry, I didn’t mind accepting unreachable objects as well, as the intersection of two parallels at infinity.
And, although the square root of the algebraic number (-1) doesn’t exit, it was given a name/symbol as (i) or (j) in order to use it and simply the solution of many existing real problems.
 
But on the other hand, millions of people on earth live normally without the need to learn, for example, Math and accept (work with) its various definitions of non-existing and unreachable objects.
 
So, obviously, if someone didn’t feel the need to know anything about the Will/Power behind his existence, it is better for him not to think about it in the first place; as all pre-programmed living things do. In fact, the instructions of the Will/Power which is behind the creation of the universe are embedded, since always, in every living cell (as DNA for example). In other words, those who are born of the flesh only can know, by themselves, how to serve the world as they are supposed to do.
 
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Before I go on, I wish I can hear some serious negative comments because such replies help me update my personal set of knowledge, most of the time. Thank you in advance.
 
Kerim

Sounds like:

1) you are convinced there is a God whose intention and power account for the universe we inhabit;

2) you believe it is possible to live ones life without studying or even hearing of this God;

3) you think the situation for knowing God and knowing geometry are comparable.


Okay, my order is life as I find it with a side of geometrical 'objects' but no gods, thank you.  What's yours?

Thank you for your interesting notes.
 
Yes, if someone did never feel the need to search for which end purpose he was forced to exist in this life, why should he bother himself by even just believing there is a Will/Power behind his own existence? After all, the instructions about how to play his role in this life are already embedded in his living cells (forming his human living flesh). So he has no choice but following them (though they are very complex in order to give him the feeling he has a free will). He does it with or without his knowledge.  
 
On the other hand, what is the difference in your opinion if I say my computer is made (through many processes) by a certain company and my being is made (also through many processes that needed millions of years) by a certain Will/Power?
 
About Geometry, I meant if someone is not interested in learning Math seriously, the reason won't be because Math has abstract notions but because he doesn't see in it a useful knowledge for his life.
 
So, we may say that typical atheists and the formal theists have no real interest in knowing more than what their human living fleshes may need. To express this satisfaction, a typical atheist says: 'God doesn't exist'... no matter what the word 'god' may refer to. And a formal theist glorifies, when necessary, the god and some Elite (as Pharaohs, Prophets or Messengers for example) who are approved by the authority that organizes the community he belongs to.
 

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By the way, as I mentioned earlier, all living things are not supposed to search the end purpose of their existence which is simply to serve the continuity of the world; the way that each species is supposed to do (the word 'serve' here may be about building and destroying as well).

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What do you have that supports this conclusion? I think that many would differ with you. One differing position would be that a living things purpose of existence would be to survive and multiply not caring if it serves.

Thank you for supporting my conclusion. Indeed, the main duty of a living thing is to survive as long as possible and multiply in order to ensure the continuity of life in the world.

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The first thing you need to learn is what the word "object" means.

He's not alone. Theists worldwide get sold something they find neat, then swallow elaborate apology to attempt to justify a cosmic sky wizard.

Having said that, scientific method can also detect the unseen. It is why while we cannot see directly into a black hole, we have a very decent foundation telling us what goes on to a great degree inside the black hole. But we also see the effects of what a black hole does to the objects we can see.

Same principle with detecting particles like the Higgs Boson. You cannot see it with the naked eye. But, build a giant collider, smash two atoms together, and just like two cars slamming head on at high speed, you can create things that detect the smaller bits that fly off.

His problem to me seems he is confusing abstract language as being part of the object language describes. 

He's trying to mix woo with science and scientific method doesn't support woo by any label.

On these days, it is not surprising that science, politics and religions have many faithful followers (believers actually) who don't mind accepting anything they may hear of if claimed being said/approved by certain scientists, top politicians/leaders or prophets.

I am afraid it would be off topic here to give real examples that I personally lived mainly what concern the 'believers' of science. In brief, mainly on these days, billions of people around the world who are rather busy to gain their daily bread could be fooled easily in the name of Science, Politics and/or Religion (thanks to the advanced technologies by which men, professional ones of course, can create any audio/video scenes that men may imagine and let them reach almost every house on Earth).

But, we like it or not, this is how the world is made since always (though its various tools evolve with time) and no one can change it; at best, one can live in it for a certain period of time.