RE: Non-existing objects
June 26, 2017 at 2:31 am
(This post was last modified: June 26, 2017 at 3:10 am by KerimF.)
(June 25, 2017 at 12:35 pm)chimp3 Wrote: Please don't make us guess what your "Will/Power" means. Your original post alluded to a supreme power or deity. Please clarify what you believe in. Or are you taking refuge in ambiguity?
But please tell me first, do you trust or not 'your' personal observations and logical reasoning (to analyse them) more than of anyone else?
It happens, I didn't meet yet a mature sane person who can 'fully' trust his abilities to discover his 'deep' nature and the world 'as it is' (far from the great speeches and famous stories).
So when I talk to a person I know in advance he will compare what I may say with what his trusted sources used saying on these days. In other words, one of the main differences of a formal theist and a typical atheist is actually the name/kind of the sources/references that should be trusted for knowing the truth(s).
(June 25, 2017 at 12:51 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Apologies in advance if I'm wrong, but it smells like socks in here.
Boru
This reminds me the reaction of some of my classmates who used hating math
anytime our math teacher started a new topic.So I guess you have your good reasons not to have a pleasant time in here...
(June 25, 2017 at 2:03 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:(June 25, 2017 at 12:35 pm)chimp3 Wrote: Please don't make us guess what your "Will/Power" means. Your original post alluded to a supreme power or deity. Please clarify what you believe in. Or are you taking refuge in ambiguity?
I asked and was ignored. What makes you think you're better than ME???
You asked what? And for which reason I may ignore you.
I try my best to reply everyone, but I am not superman.
By the way, my internet connection is not as good as yours. I can't be online anytime I like. The connection could also be lost at any minute and for an undetermined period of time.
(June 25, 2017 at 1:29 pm)Brian37 Wrote:(June 25, 2017 at 12:35 pm)chimp3 Wrote: Please don't make us guess what your "Will/Power" means. Your original post alluded to a supreme power or deity. Please clarify what you believe in. Or are you taking refuge in ambiguity?
Ambiguity is how every religion survives. It is why even within the same label on any religion all of them have sub sects that cannot agree as to it's interpretation or how to follow.
No Kerm, I am not presuming anything about you personally.
You may have missed the post where I said I have been at this since 01. Your mistake was assuming this was our first rodeo.
A used car lot can have lots of different models of vehicles but they are all still vehicles.
How about you try debating not just atheists, but Muslims and Jews and Hindus and Buddhists, and do that almost every single day for 16 years. See, you debate enough and diverse labels for that period and you see the same patterns. It all boils down to "I got it right". Yep, everyone thinks they got it right.
Point is you came in here thinking you had something unique, but it is not.
Would you please re-read your first and last sentences above "No Kerim, I am not... " and "... thinking... "?
I came in here, as I said in a previous post (addressed to another member), to find out if there is a person around here "who can 'fully' trust his abilities to discover his deep nature and the world as it is (far from the great speeches and famous stories)".
Am I doing something wrong or bad?
