(June 26, 2017 at 12:10 pm)Astonished Wrote:(June 25, 2017 at 7:07 am)KerimF Wrote: To become a professional designer (in electronics) I had to accept notions of non-existing objects.
The geometrical dot is a simple example. By definition, it has no dimensions. But the entire Geometry is based on it; a non-existing object.
Also in geometry, I didn’t mind accepting unreachable objects as well, as the intersection of two parallels at infinity.
And, although the square root of the algebraic number (-1) doesn’t exit, it was given a name/symbol as (i) or (j) in order to use it and simply the solution of many existing real problems.
But on the other hand, millions of people on earth live normally without the need to learn, for example, Math and accept (work with) its various definitions of non-existing and unreachable objects.
So, obviously, if someone didn’t feel the need to know anything about the Will/Power behind his existence, it is better for him not to think about it in the first place; as all pre-programmed living things do. In fact, the instructions of the Will/Power which is behind the creation of the universe are embedded, since always, in every living cell (as DNA for example). In other words, those who are born of the flesh only can know, by themselves, how to serve the world as they are supposed to do.
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Before I go on, I wish I can hear some serious negative comments because such replies help me update my personal set of knowledge, most of the time. Thank you in advance.
Kerim
If I could understand what the fuck you were trying to say I'd probably have some negative comments. But I'll just go by your geometry example and give the usual anti-theist spiel. Yes, all of those things are nonexistent objects (hell, NUMBERS are nonexistent objects) but the difference between math and deities is that one of them has practical application and utility in life and the others do not and in fact only impede it at every turn.
You say it and I agree with you.
A rational person, as most people are, shouldn't lose his time thinking about things that are not useful to his nature (to the structure he is made of) in the first place.
On the other hand, if someone gets a computer as a present and likes to use it for playing computer games only, would he be interested in testing all its functions while searching any available information about it that are provided by its original maker (usually a company)? He would be greatly satisfied just in playing games on it, till it will be broken.
But if a professional engineer got a powerful advanced computer, he won't hesitate learning almost everything about it and he would be glad if he got useful hints provided, in a way or another, by its maker.
Obviously this analogy is not perfect because both computers, when dead, will be thrown, sooner or later, into fire... to return them back to their raw state.
Does this fire has anything to do with the eternal torture place called Hell? Of course not, Hell is created by men to scare other men as some parents do with their children when they were kids.
But this fire reminds me the expression used in an ancient story "The Everlasting Fire". Indeed, fire is much like the black holes that have one-way ticket with no return. (For instance, I heard that one-way tickets are also available to travel into outer space).
