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Objective morality as a proper basic belief
RE: Objective morality as a proper basic belief
Meh, we're probably not all that important..but sure.  Still..that's been what, a few years against all of recorded history?  The notion of a secular morality was largely unexplored, roundly discouraged, and in some cases punished by excommunication or worse in recent centuries.  To this day there is a completely anomalous view of atheism and atheists, and atheists find -themselves- arguing against things like secular moral objectivism because it either doesn't provide what religious moral schemas claimed but failed to provide (the carrot of easy answers to hard questions)...or what those same religious traditions insisted must -be- supplied to -be- objective (uniform and righteous moral indignation, lol).

The tables weren't titled...someone flipped them right over and then burned down the house they were sitting in.

That said, I think it's a bit better established than your summary lets on. It's not resolved...but neither is the mechanism of the photosynthetic apparatus; it aint for lack of good data and demonstrable facts in either case. It's a commitment to rationality and continuing discussion. If we're doing it right.."it" will never be resolved. There will be no final moral solution. That, again, was a lie held out by people who insisted that pixies gave them the cliff notes.
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RE: Objective morality as a proper basic belief - by The Grand Nudger - June 26, 2017 at 9:06 pm

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