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A Quote For Atheist to consider :
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Anyone who wants to use the "goldilocks zone" as an argument for god would have to explain why god created three planets in this zone (just in our solar system), and then never saw fit to mention it to us (we may also want to know why the others, Mars and Venus are lifeless). There is no fine tuning argument, because there is no fine tuning. The "goldilocks zone" is approx 35 million miles wide for a star such as our own. It may be larger (up to 2 AU wide). Other stars have different habitable zones than our own. There may be as many as 500 million planets within such zones in the Milky Way alone (Seth Shostek est. based on Kepler findings). Why would a creator god require any of this by the way? Could have willed us into existence on a completely uninhabitable planet.

An interesting thought. The cosmos could be filled with life supporting planets, absolutely brimming with them. Each of these little islands in this great sea of life are unfortunately moving away from each other. Every peice of blocked research, every religious taboo that slows the advance of science makes the eventual trip to these places that much more difficult. I say this without guile, I don't want you to feel that I'm ridiculing you, but you've been sold a bill of goods with regards to the cosmological argument for the existence of god. If anything in modern science supported the god hypothesis we'd all be praising Him and singing hallellujah. As it stands, we are not. Why do you think that is?

Fun Fact, The Milky Ways GHZ (Galactic Habitable Zone) has been estimated to be 6,000 light years wide. That's an awful lot of leeway for a finely tuned creation.


(not counting Europa or Titan here, though I probably should)
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RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Violet - July 23, 2011 at 12:50 am
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Minimalist - July 23, 2011 at 12:54 am
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Judas BentHer - July 23, 2011 at 12:33 pm
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Violet - July 23, 2011 at 1:02 am
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by theVOID - July 23, 2011 at 1:08 am
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by theVOID - July 23, 2011 at 1:18 am
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Welsh cake - July 23, 2011 at 1:14 am
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by theVOID - July 23, 2011 at 1:25 am
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Whateverist - July 23, 2011 at 1:18 am
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by theVOID - July 23, 2011 at 2:45 am
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by theVOID - July 24, 2011 at 12:27 am
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by theVOID - July 23, 2011 at 1:46 am
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Jackalope - July 23, 2011 at 1:52 pm
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Welsh cake - July 23, 2011 at 1:26 am
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Minimalist - July 23, 2011 at 2:03 am
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by padraic - July 23, 2011 at 3:39 am
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Jackalope - July 23, 2011 at 2:10 pm
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by theVOID - July 23, 2011 at 3:42 am
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by padraic - July 23, 2011 at 3:45 am
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Kayenneh - July 23, 2011 at 3:49 am
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Darwinian - July 23, 2011 at 4:19 am
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Whateverist - July 23, 2011 at 11:27 am
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RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Spectrum - July 23, 2011 at 12:52 pm
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RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Darwinian - July 23, 2011 at 2:04 pm
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RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Tiberius - July 23, 2011 at 9:41 pm
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Judas BentHer - July 23, 2011 at 10:02 pm
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Whateverist - July 24, 2011 at 12:50 am
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Anymouse - July 24, 2011 at 1:06 am
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RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Shell B - July 24, 2011 at 1:06 am
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RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Welsh cake - July 24, 2011 at 2:56 am
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RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Whateverist - July 24, 2011 at 4:47 pm
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Ace Otana - July 24, 2011 at 4:36 pm
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by edk - July 24, 2011 at 9:38 am
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Whateverist - July 24, 2011 at 10:30 am
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by edk - July 24, 2011 at 2:09 pm
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Faith No More - July 24, 2011 at 11:06 am
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Minimalist - July 24, 2011 at 3:35 pm
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RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by edk - July 24, 2011 at 4:13 pm
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Minimalist - July 24, 2011 at 4:16 pm
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by edk - July 24, 2011 at 4:27 pm
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by thebigfudge - July 24, 2011 at 5:10 pm
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RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Whateverist - July 24, 2011 at 5:31 pm
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by thebigfudge - July 24, 2011 at 5:35 pm
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by thebigfudge - July 24, 2011 at 5:45 pm
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Darwinian - July 24, 2011 at 6:01 pm
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Whateverist - July 24, 2011 at 5:54 pm
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Minimalist - July 24, 2011 at 5:53 pm
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RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Minimalist - July 24, 2011 at 6:02 pm
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Ace Otana - July 24, 2011 at 6:24 pm
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Whateverist - July 24, 2011 at 7:15 pm
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Darwinian - July 24, 2011 at 6:24 pm
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by DaveD - July 24, 2011 at 6:29 pm
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Shell B - July 24, 2011 at 7:08 pm
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RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by DaveD - July 24, 2011 at 7:09 pm
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Cinjin - July 24, 2011 at 7:11 pm
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by edk - July 24, 2011 at 6:26 pm
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Minimalist - July 24, 2011 at 6:39 pm
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by padraic - July 24, 2011 at 6:46 pm
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Shell B - July 24, 2011 at 7:55 pm
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Minimalist - July 24, 2011 at 10:20 pm
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RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Ace Otana - July 25, 2011 at 1:33 am
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Cinjin - July 25, 2011 at 1:47 am
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Minimalist - July 25, 2011 at 1:41 am
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Ace Otana - July 25, 2011 at 1:57 am
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by leo-rcc - July 25, 2011 at 4:17 am
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by bozo - July 25, 2011 at 5:19 am
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by fr0d0 - July 25, 2011 at 7:48 am
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by theVOID - July 25, 2011 at 7:53 am
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Minimalist - July 25, 2011 at 12:28 pm
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by padraic - July 25, 2011 at 7:12 pm
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by edk - July 25, 2011 at 2:52 pm
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Napoléon - July 26, 2011 at 9:47 am
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by padraic - July 28, 2011 at 8:36 pm
RE: A Quote For Atheist to consider : - by Killman - July 29, 2011 at 6:33 am

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