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Objective morality as a proper basic belief
RE: Objective morality as a proper basic belief
(July 5, 2017 at 8:44 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I don't think that believing in a subjective morality, means that one endorses atrocities.  I don't think they have an external basis, in which to criticize, or say that others are right or wrong.  And I see your point, "equal" was probably a poor choice of words on my part.  "Indifferent" perhaps would be a better choice, as there is not a common basis for comparison.  I apologize, if I came off as attempting to state what a moral relativist believes.  Rather what I meant is that there is a disconnect, between there moral relativism, and their actions or behavior; which doesn't follow from that position.

No external basis is required.  That's kind of the point of calling some x subjective assessments.

What's your basis, and is it actually external? How much thought have you given this?

Their actions most likely follow from what they subjectively describe to be right and wrong. There's no disconnect. There is -no- functional difference between an objective and a subjective morality. Person A thinks x is subjectively wrong and they do y. Person b thinks x is objectively wrong....and they do...wait for it.......y.
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RE: Objective morality as a proper basic belief - by The Grand Nudger - July 5, 2017 at 10:23 pm

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