(May 6, 2009 at 10:00 am)chatpilot Wrote: Okay frodo we agree that there is no evidence,and that the references I mentioned could be non factual.I see this as a contradiction since I was speaking about the historicity of Christ in my last post.If the historicity of Christ could be non factual due to the lack of evidence then you are basically worshipping a mythological personage.That is sort of like taking advice from the great Confucius or Buddah himself.If you state that the bible is full of moral teachings and most of those things taught there are meant to be taken spiritually,then please tell me where do you get your concept of spirit?Since it is also a given that the existence of a spirit is like god himself another thing that cannot be defined or scientifically discerned.
The first books of the Bible are seen as poetry by some. Not factual, and I agree with them. Other parts of the Bible are different. There are many different styles and reasons for those books and they don't all fall into one category by any stretch of the imagination. Read it intelligently and with reference to surrounding facts and it makes sense.
I don't see the historicity of Christ as purely myth. My assertion is that it (the Bible) could be entirely myth and that wouldn't matter to what it's really about, which is spiritual truth. This truth has direct personal influence and interaction with my life. It's not just an idea.
I get my concept of the spirit from the Bible, since I accept the Bible as truth (this wasn't always so). Man is part spirit and that spirit is like God. People stuff this space with all kinds of shit. In spiritual terms, this is spiritual ill health. In simple practical terms, the Bible provides guidelines to be healthy. Appreciating life in every moment etc etc, is what it's all about.
Fair enough the concept is well worn and prolifically abused. It's so easy to put it down with misinformation which is what anti theists seem to want to spend their lives doing. What we have isspiritual anarchy. It's not so wise to throw out such a wealth of knowledge.
If you only look at spirituality as a scientist then you're never going to get it. Spirituality doesn't concern science.