RE: Don't you just love the hypocrisy of religion.
July 12, 2017 at 9:34 am
(This post was last modified: July 12, 2017 at 9:34 am by Inkfeather132.)
(July 12, 2017 at 6:20 am)Dropship Wrote:(July 6, 2017 at 4:28 am)ignoramus Wrote: Hypocrisy #4
"I permit no woman to teach or have authority over men; she is to keep silent." Timothy 2:11
Paul wrote that to Tim simply as a guideline for the early churches which were being disrupted by noisy women who were using the places as drop-in centres for coffee and gossip!
He had no beef with sensible women, for example the early Christian sect in Phrygia was led by Montanus and two prophetesses, Priscilla and Maximilla.
And Paul paid glowing tributes to other women-
"I commend to you our sister Phoebe, a servant of the church in Cenchrea..she has been a great help to many people, including me..
Greet Priscilla , my fellow worker in Christ Jesus, she risked her life for me.
Greet Mary, who worked very hard for you..
Greet Tryphena and Tryphosa and Persis, those women who work hard in the Lord.
Greet Rufus, chosen in the Lord, and his mother, who has been a mother to me, too.
Greet Julia.." (Romans ch 16)
"There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus" (Galatians 3:28 )
Church of England women clergy
First, there is no indication that any of the women you listed had leadership positions over men. Just that they were helpful. They could easily have been "pastor's wives" working subordinate to their husbands. Or just helpful women in general, but it does not say they were leaders (which is the point of the verse you quoted). You can believe women are not your equal while still believing they have some value. And a single church defying Paul's stupidity doesn't tell us anything about him. The verse is very clear about what he believes.
Second, the next verse you quoted means nothing when the first one clearly states a woman cannot have authority. Paul writes in Ephesians 6 that slaves must obey their masters. So slaves still existed in the church. Is this another contradiction?
Third, your picture adds nothing to the conversation. Saying that the Church of England has women clergy, so Paul must not have been against it, is like me saying the Church of Sweden performs homosexual marriages, so Paul must not have been against that either. The world has moved on from Paul's backwards thinking.