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Objective morality as a proper basic belief
RE: Objective morality as a proper basic belief
(July 13, 2017 at 11:35 am)Inkfeather132 Wrote: Lol, not sure how good of an argument you'll have with me when I barely understand all this Smile For instance, I'm still a bit fuzzy on: Is there an objective moral standard? Does objective morality even need one? If it does and there is, what is that standard?

Better a question that I ask you then tell you.  Is there something that makes some thing x, bad?  Let's take an example of something that you think is bad.  Is it bad, because it is your opinion that it is bad?  Obviously, you hold the opinion, but does your holding that opinion make that thing bad.  Could it be "not bad"..or even good, if you..personally held a different opinion, or changed that opinion?  Is it something about -you- that makes thing x bad, or is it something about that thing x? If the latter, can that be objectively verified? If you say to me "X is bad because such and such"....will I be able to look at such and such, free of your bias by simple virtue of not being you, and say - "okay, I see what you said would be there"?

Does objective morality need an objective moral standard?  By definition, yes.  Do you?  Probably not.  If you thought that something was wrong without any expllanation for why, and it happened to be the thing that some other objective standard also considered wrong..the practical difference is nil.

What do you think that standard is, what makes something bad, and why? What are we talking about when we talk about morality? What are we referring to when we determine that something is good or bad?
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RE: Objective morality as a proper basic belief - by The Grand Nudger - July 13, 2017 at 12:44 pm

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