(July 26, 2017 at 9:37 am)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(July 26, 2017 at 12:12 am)Kernel Sohcahtoa Wrote: With all due respect, and out of curiosity, is it not logical to focus more on rehabilitation than on torture?
Hell might be the ultimate rehab. There's this verse from the Quran:
Quote:Sura 40, Page 468, The Quran:
( 11 ) They will say, "Our Lord, You made us lifeless twice and gave us life twice, and we have confessed our sins. So is there to an exit any way?"
Dying twice is what I think would work for anybody that ignored seeing the light in this life.
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Astreja
Quote:Astreja Wrote:
I think I see a little further down the road than you think, Atlas.
Nobody deserves hell. No exceptions. Not even the worst of the worst in the history of humanity. Eternal punishment for finite crimes is infinitely unjust, because the punishment is infinitely more than the crime.
I've seen poor people. So poor they used to live with roaches all around their holes -In Egypt; most buildings have doormen. All are poor, and you can see the sick class divisions whenever you enter the building and see the doorman looks down; calling you a "Pasha". and you know deep inside that this man and his family are so smelly and so poor because a mad dictator is controlling the country and robbing the whole cash for himself; instead of spending it like he should on people like the doorman of your building.
Thank God my conditions were much better.
Some people deserve hell; Astreja. No father or mother on the other hand, deserve to work as slaves calling me a "Basha", while sleeping in a bug infested hole below the stairs.
This is another aspect of ALL religions I despise. It is even if one is unaware, a vile subconscious form of recruitment. Seriously Atlass, if your depressed and a Christian quoted a bible verse and you were unwilling to swallow it, then why do you think it works for you?
I really hate this shit from a logical standpoint. It really is victimizing someone while they are vulnerable to do what? Gain a recruit. I suffer from depression myself, but in my current lucid state, even given that, selling me a utopia to act as a crutch, isn't solving problems, it is merely replacing one problem with another and only masking the problem.
You are hungry, someone hands you food, so therefore Jesus is the one real and only God? You get saved from drowning so therefore Yahweh is the only real God? Some Hindus dug you out of an earthquake so the Creator God Bhrama is the only real God?
No sorry reality isn't like that. I have depression myself sometimes, and no amount of quoting the Koran or Bible or Torah or Talmud or Vedas or Buddha is going to cause me to think I need any of those things.
Life does suck sometimes sure, but there is no magic to it good or bad.