If evidence for god is in abundance, why is faith necessary?

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If evidence for god is in abundance, why is faith necessary?

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RE: If evidence for god is in abundance, why is faith necessary?

July 27, 2017 at 11:17 pm

(July 27, 2017 at 4:03 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: By any logical standard if there was any evidence for the existence of god, that would make faith irrelevant.

That faith is needed in the religious community reasonably means that zero evidence is in existence to prove god is real.

IMO, I think the conclusion does not follow from the premise because a Christian does not have to have faith that God exists. That God exists can be known. Rather we are called to have faith that Jesus Christ can/will/does provide atonement for our sins if we ask and in his other promises related to the Christian life.

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RE: If evidence for god is in abundance, why is faith necessary? - by Harry Nevis - July 28, 2017 at 11:44 am

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RE: If evidence for god is in abundance, why is faith necessary? - by Astonished - July 30, 2017 at 3:55 am

RE: If evidence for god is in abundance, why is faith necessary? - by speedyj1992 - October 12, 2017 at 11:25 pm

RE: If evidence for god is in abundance, why is faith necessary? - by pocaracas - October 13, 2017 at 4:40 am

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RE: If evidence for god is in abundance, why is faith necessary? - by Harry Nevis - October 13, 2017 at 10:23 am

RE: If evidence for god is in abundance, why is faith necessary? - by Cyberman - October 13, 2017 at 7:20 pm

RE: If evidence for god is in abundance, why is faith necessary? - by speedyj1992 - October 18, 2017 at 2:52 pm

RE: If evidence for god is in abundance, why is faith necessary? - by Harry Nevis - October 18, 2017 at 3:43 pm

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RE: If evidence for god is in abundance, why is faith necessary? - by pocaracas - October 23, 2017 at 6:13 pm

RE: If evidence for god is in abundance, why is faith necessary? - by speedyj1992 - November 2, 2017 at 5:49 pm

RE: If evidence for god is in abundance, why is faith necessary? - by Succubus - November 2, 2017 at 6:37 pm

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